Floor plan and elevations for a single-family house of approximately 160 m² on a hillside location

  • Erstellt am 2022-12-06 21:01:02

hanghaus2023

2022-12-07 22:39:42
  • #1
There are elevations in the plan for that. But from the street to the underside of the house (south) in the site plan it is just 0.6 m.
 

hanghaus2023

2022-12-07 22:43:02
  • #2
Thank you for the plan of the property with elevations.
 

Karl-Jupp

2022-12-07 22:47:39
  • #3


It is indeed an independent architect. However, he usually plans prefab houses and has therefore taken into account the usual conditions of prefab houses. This was also clear to us and desired by us. Presumably, split-level does not work well in combination with prefab houses or would at least make it expensive.
 

ypg

2022-12-07 23:31:14
  • #4

Yes, you are right. We should have noticed that already when looking at the red walls like that.


We don’t want to discuss that either. But many here know what is stated in the service description of prefab house companies, or what kind of additional costs you have to expect. At least you don’t have a catalog price in front of you but have already asked accordingly. Still, usually a general answer is given if the contract is not yet signed.

However, we cannot evaluate that. For example, I only know one prefab house manufacturer who offers floors and painting included. But that one has a different design approach. From the forum I know many builders who were very surprised that “turnkey” is a marketing term.
Please don’t be offended if I/we have doubts about your price and conviction.
Overall, you really have to keep an overview of the performance description. I’ll just give one example: the performance description mentions a 200-liter water storage tank, but for a 4-person household you actually need 300 liters. 30x30 tiles and laminate are included, but you want 40/80 tiles and parquet and vinyl. And suddenly the next 30-40k show up. And the earthworks, the builder simply cannot define these without a building survey, because the offer only concerns the house, not the land costs.

Of course, we can accept the price as is because you are on first-name terms with the builder, you have a brother in the timber trade yourself, and your father has connections in sanitation. But then the builder will not cooperate, and then it’s no longer turnkey.

But let’s just look at the floor plan and put aside the price expectation:
And here I fully agree with Katja, you really have to look at it for a day… to let the holes at the house have their effect.
That these cellar holes ruin the house with access to the garden is not good at all. You practically cannot use it properly. The house does not deserve that with this small ridiculous slope. Neither do you.
In principle, I would put the garage in the east anyway, to benefit from the afternoon and evening sun.
And if you want recessed basement windows, I would put them in the west, because when the sun is lower it also finds its way into the basement. Then you are somewhat freer with the terrace but have direct access to the terrace with proper planning without tons of railings on the slopes.
Personally, I would give one more meter of space in the front so you still have a yard for playing and parking in the front garden.
The floor plan fails first of all due to the too small kitchen (the row is max 3.20 m wide, resulting in 5 60-cm cabinets. We have 8 60-cm units plus sand-lime brick wall with 2 people and still had to add a 40-cm unit because many things were cramped. With children you need reachable storage space in the kitchen, not just for the coffee machine, but also for drinks, cookware, and other stuff) and the bathroom drain of the upper floor bathroom.
To be honest: I cannot estimate to what extent the facts mentioned present themselves as they should.
P.s.

Famous or reputable. They are not necessarily the best.
 

hanse987

2022-12-07 23:31:21
  • #5
Why have you fixedate on a prefabricated house? I would be interested in the reason?
 

Karl-Jupp

2022-12-08 00:07:19
  • #6


Thank you again for the honest words.
I would actually like to leave the topic "turnkey" and price aside. On the one hand because we don’t want to build turnkey (floor coverings, bathrooms, etc. will be self-done) and on the other because we cannot settle this conclusively here and now anyway.

The notes on the floor plan are of course interesting. We want basement windows so that light comes into the office. So we do need those. But a location in the west could be considered, although only a side arrangement would be possible then and the window in the hobby room would have to be omitted, as the terrace is located there.

Regarding the kitchen, we checked again today how it is with friends (4 people). They have a 3.25 m wide kitchen row and are totally satisfied. We currently also don’t have more and manage well. Apparently, kitchen equipment and the amount of supplies vary so much if you already need more space with two people. :D We would not plan the kitchen bigger even if more space was available.

Possibly locating the house further from the street and drainage of the children’s bathroom are topics we will bring up with the architect.
 

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