Difficult Plot and Monument - §34

  • Erstellt am 2025-02-11 21:44:51

ypg

2025-06-23 23:13:20
  • #1
I would also not dock a longer island, but rather plan at least a narrow passage to walk through. Then the second, third, or fourth cook can also chop from the other side, and everyone can quickly switch sides before a bottleneck occurs in the dead end.
 

kbt09

2025-06-24 08:34:54
  • #2
For that, one should sensibly consider the wall section towards the corridor... whether it is in the right place. I would probably only extend it to the depth of the countertop, then leave 2 to 2.5 meters free, and then have another wall. That way, you create the space to place the island a bit further towards the top of the plan and maybe still leave it at least 200 to 220 cm long.
 

buttyhome

2025-06-24 21:42:17
  • #3

In fact, this spot is still under discussion regarding how we want to design the passage from the hallway to the living room. Open? Then there is some room for maneuver, just as suggested. A door?



How far should it stand from the wall so that it doesn’t look cramped?



Good idea, a small window fits perfectly there.

What is the advantage of placing the stove against the wall and the sink on the island? Less mess?

And does anyone have creative ideas for the roof material? Maybe even suitable example photos?
 

ypg

2025-06-24 22:28:28
  • #4

My opinion: docked islands are tacky. For a more spacious, airy impression, you set an island as an island. A peninsula is just a peninsula.
And then it depends on whether you need the free space to walk through or not. If you can't walk through, you trap yourself in the kitchen. If it is an emergency passage, i.e. a secondary passage, then it can be narrower. I would never think symmetrically there, as that hasn't proven itself within a kitchen.

It depends on your point of view. For Kerstin water on the island makes more sense. Many others put the sink on the island because Instagram shows it a lot.
For me, the sink is a place where sometimes or often dirty dishes are parked for more or less a long time. Good knife (blades) and board daily in the sink, when guests are around, also the mess around it sometimes. Also within reach: sponge, brush, disinfectant, and dish soap.
And honestly? I don't want that on the island, which mentally is half assigned to the dining area. I prefer to have the stove there, from where delicious food is carried straight to the dining table. Of course, if your cleaning process and rituals for food are different from mine, then you will argue differently too.
 

kbt09

2025-06-25 01:59:44
  • #5

I'm not a fan of downdraft extractors because you combine two main appliances into one device. I prefer ceiling extractor hood solutions like in the linked kitchen layout by opalau.

I also think that prepping/main activities are tasks you need for almost every meal, where usually several people work together, and I find the island nicer for that.

I always see that as the last act, especially with guests; preparation is already finished, and the last mess stays around the cooktop.

I also think a true island is better than a peninsula, but I do see the slight limitation with you, since 350 cm of room width is not very generous. For the "side passage," 70 cm is enough. I've also seen solutions with 60 cm.
 

buttyhome

2025-06-25 05:57:21
  • #6
I find both arguments very understandable. I prefer islands that are only used for preparation and have the stove and sink against the wall. Unfortunately, there isn’t quite enough space for that... I try to plan some distance from the wall. How would you design the passage to the hallway then? Leave it open so that the island can move more toward the center? Or a door after all? A sliding door?
 

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