Cat poop or wild animal droppings? Warning; pile picture!

Oh, I only feel pity for the prey very briefly. For me, that's just part of nature. Otherwise, I would start crying at every nature documentary. Some cats play with their prey quite a long time, some make it quick and painless. I personally even think it serves animal welfare if my cats keep the local mouse, rat, and rabbit populations in check. You don't want to know what it would look like if no predator took over. When it comes to birds, opinions are divided. I still doubt that cats are THE factor forcing the little creatures to extinction. And so far, no one has been able to provide me with anything other than estimates. But yes, I am the first to call for mandatory neutering and identification for all cats, except those kept in registered and inspected breeding facilities. Some cities are taking small steps in the right direction, but unfortunately still far too few.

Oh, I only feel pity for the prey very briefly.

Hello Evoltih I am not as cold as you! I find it horrible when a cat tortures a young rabbit to death for an hour. You obviously don’t care about the rabbit’s pain. What would you say if someone killed your cat very slowly? So that it suffers for a long time? Or is this coldness only directed at other animals by you? Cats kill out of murderous greed, not because they are hungry. And this, which is unique in the animal kingdom, not quickly, but as slowly as possible. Of course, they make no distinction regarding the species of the animal. Whether it is a rat or a rare kingfisher. They go out daily and try to kill as many animals as possible. Cat owners don’t care. That’s why I can’t understand your so-called love of animals. Someone called me a “cat hater.” Then I can pass on “animal hater” to cat owners. The cat population in Germany is gigantically excessive. This has nothing to do with a natural distribution. Regulatory intervention is urgently needed. Nature suffers. Steven

Sorry, but the millions of domestic cats have nothing to do with nature, you are on the wrong track. The population of wildcats in Germany is estimated to be between 5,000 and 7,000, so the bird population can certainly cope without problems. It is also part of nature that homeowners keep nuisance animals away from their property. You can sugarcoat your hobby as much as you like, but it remains a personal amusement at the expense of nature and other people.

Cats kill out of murderous greed, not because they are hungry. And this, unique in the animal kingdom, not quickly, but as slowly as possible.

Are you serious? So that you might not need cats, that house cats become a problem in some places because they are not neutered, okay I somewhat agree with that.

But to ascribe a lust for murder to an animal is really entertaining. It is an animal - hunting, catching, killing is their instinct. Cats are still quite primitive in this regard.

Our cats, bred house cats without outdoor access for generations - if an animal somehow wanders in here - it will be killed. This instinct is simply still deeply rooted in the animals and in no way comparable to other domesticated animals (favorite example here dogs).

Troubles or not, one should also keep things in perspective.

This is getting super meta now. What is nature, what is not, does man belong to it or not...?

Let's put it this way: It is a behavior natural for cats, which occurs in unnaturally high numbers. Simply because a natural cat population would have far fewer animals per area than there have been due to free-roaming cats.

You therefore can't just say: That's just nature. No! It isn't.

However, if you feel pity for the tormented prey animals: Are you a vegan yourself? Because through your own diet you constantly cause animal suffering if you are not. Feeling sorry for a rabbit tormented by a cat, but then an hour later fetching the juicy pulled pork from the smoker, is kind of schizophrenic.

Hello Evoltih, I'm not as cold as you! I find it horrible when a cat tortures a young rabbit to death for an hour.

I don't really find your arguments very convincing either. Killing the cat because it poops in the garden would be okay, but if the cat catches mice, you find it terribly cruel. That's complete nonsense. Nature is cruel. Haven't you noticed yet? Look at how humans torture other humans. You can learn something from that. Or how humans torture animals for fun. Big animals torture small ones. Insects eat other insects alive. All life is a constant struggle. Even trees fight against other trees. The paradise where all lie peacefully and full next to each other only exists after death — at least for those who believe in it.