Suggestions for the floor plan

ypg what is wrong with you lately; read 2 threads, 2 times snappy answers from you

ypg what's wrong with you lately; read 2 threads, 2 snappy replies from you

You can take a look at my other 5099+ replies
Snappy is probably subjective.
It annoys me when someone tries to tell me, with 30 years of experience, how things work, although nothing is well thought out.
Sorry, what annoys me more is the lost time I waste in my free time.

I can understand that if you follow the recent floor plan discussions. An inadequate plan drawing is submitted, only approval is expected, on the other hand, obvious planning defects are defended. That cannot work. Because in my opinion it does not fulfill the actual purpose of such a discussion. Namely to benefit from the ideas and experiences of local builders here.

Wow, I am impressed.
There I explain something and ask about certain things that are simply not clear to me or are just too simplistic, and then the big wave starts.
I did not ask for approval and I did not defend anything. However, it is not very constructive to simply portray everything as rubbish and bad and wrong without a word of explanation. Also, I did not force anyone to contribute anything here, everything happens on a voluntary basis.

Last but not least, assumptions are made here and conjectures are made about things and people you do not know. Maybe one should question that a little for oneself.

I wish everyone a nice day

... well - sorry - if you defend a 120cm wide pantry as 'sufficient' without asking what width experienced builders and house occupants consider appropriate, then you shouldn’t be surprised by the backlash.

And yes, 120cm is too narrow! We have 135cm - and I can assure you, that’s the absolute minimum - even there it’s difficult to replace a cooling appliance.

I am always surprised that people who think they already know everything even bother to post their floor plans here *ponder*.

Such half-turned staircases then have to be maneuvered up and down with the bedroom furniture.

Basement without windows? I wouldn’t want that - in our case every basement has a window.

Laundry room in the basement? In my own house? and always 2 floors up and down? What’s the point of ‘barrier-free’ then.

A 12sqm bedroom will never be barrier-free for 2 people, that works at most for 1 person - and the other hauls all clothes & bedding etc. from elsewhere. There is hardly any storage space possible in such a situation.

Is a living area with so little window surface even permitted in your area? Why don’t you put the living room in a basement room if no window is desired (probably because of a home theater?) ...

.. well - sorry - if you defend a 120cm wide pantry as 'sufficient' without first asking what width experienced builders and homeowners consider appropriate, then you shouldn’t be surprised by the backlash.

And yes, 120cm is too narrow! We have 135cm - and I can assure you, that’s the absolute minimum - even then it’s difficult to replace a cooling appliance.

Thanks! That is a constructive way to put it. Instead of simply saying "it’s crap." I have already taken this into account.

Regarding "barrier-free": okay, admittedly, it’s not truly barrier-free, or only to a small extent. And I also hope never to have to make use of such a thing.

Basement without windows? I wouldn’t want that - in our house every basement has a window.

In the HAR/utility room I don’t need a window. One of the rooms is purely for storage; the window would be blocked anyway. We are still considering it for the utility room and the large basement room.

Such half-turned stairs mean you first have to lug the bedroom furniture up and down.

Thanks for the hint, but I had no intention of lugging furniture up and down every week. And in my previous moves I sometimes had far narrower staircases.

Laundry room in the basement? In my own house?

There are more people involved in decisions here than just me. But I have to say, these are two appliances I really don’t want upstairs.

I’d like to clarify something: I don’t expect anyone to draw me a floor plan or anything like that, but I do think it’s possible to have at least some factual discussion about it. Simply saying it’s crap doesn’t help. And as I have mentioned several times, if it’s constructive, that’s great and I appreciate it. And I am not defending anything; I am explaining why I made certain decisions or why I am planning something a certain way.