Stop or pause house construction? Costs too high

Whereas I argue that you shouldn’t save too much on things that are difficult or costly to renew later. I count things like floor coverings and windows among these.

Floor coverings are hard to renew? I was thinking more of things like: controlled residential ventilation, shutters, KNX, empty conduits for wiring, fireplace :cool:

That’s the frills that are nicely explained further down. and also someone else here said it well… but I can no longer recall the exact quotes and wording. Your list includes things that many people actually don’t plan for at all. Those are not renewed either, rather it would be about retrofitting.

It is still easier to carry out than other things. I wouldn’t necessarily count tiles as hard to replace. Labor-intensive, yes...

Tiles or a surface texture on walls and floors are a must. When it comes to tiles, you tend to choose the high-quality ones, if affordable, because you have to live with them for 20 years or longer. KNX etc. is not necessarily “frills,” as already mentioned.

Since the OP insisted when asked that such frills were not planned, I just believe her.

That may be. But as Tom’s list already shows: everyone has a very different needs list and claims. And the mentioned comparable properties were already quite expensive (my opinion). However, it is also about a 900,000€ budget… whoever doesn’t plan frills in this budget… well, then I don’t know either…

Most of the frills discussed here are hardly found there at all..... and people still live:eek:

Most frills, that is, those that have been mentioned, discussed or advocated here in the forum for years, hardly anyone has in our (new build) area. Ok, the building boom in our area was already 7 years ago. But even the successor houses hardly have a fireplace, not regular shutters, KNX is knox for many, sliding door elements are also rare. Etc. Yes, there are individual examples, but as it is portrayed here (KKK for fireplace, KfW40 and KNX), it simply isn’t so. Unfortunately, not fitting well here is the very good example of the sliding door – because it has been built very, very rarely in 65 houses here. You practically have to look for it. And it really has nothing to do with the present time, but existed at least since the 70s. But it is a cost factor that most did not manage to have built. Regardless of whether it would have advantages.

We have, for example, consciously chosen not to have sliding doors; I used to have a large one, but I prefer the "ordinary" door and in one case the second part is fully foldable.
In our small residential area, just as describes, mostly without photovoltaics and controlled residential ventilation, sometimes even completely without roller shutters, terraces facing north, only small windows on the upper floor, etc., and yet people are satisfied with it. Our neighbor is technically interested but doesn’t have KNX; he is saving up for a terrace roof and a carport. That’s more or less what I perceive broadly and how I know it from my previous house-building life.
The people here are all incredibly proud of their houses, even if I wouldn’t have done it that way. But I am in a different phase of life, have completely different interests and preferences, and for the young people, we probably come across more like friendly freaks, as I have noticed. At least as the senior president, I am entitled to that.
The more you read about today’s possibilities and supposed standards, the more you "miss" them; it’s hard to free yourself from that. In this respect, I often admire those who like to do their own thing, even if it might not be for me. For me, there is still a large portion of charm in simplicity. As I have written before, I would almost miss having no light switches or be annoyed if the lights turned on by themselves. Currently, we have a motion detector in the hallway—WOW—so I have KNX or whatever it’s called, but if it annoys me, it will be removed again.
I find it exciting to have fewer things, but each of the highest quality, so that it is fun to look at or use them, from tools to pans. One is enough, but it has to be the “right” one.
I used to have trillions of things, constantly chasing the latest trend, but today that annoys me immensely, especially the time often wasted on such things (used to be).
I see €60,000–100,000 cars with a second car and a motorcycle, etc., on the terrace but the simplest concrete slabs; the same direction inside the house, maybe a picture from Ikea. Again and again, I find it a pity that such a weighting, which at least seems unhealthy to me, is lived out. Therefore my credo: not much money for the vehicle fleet, but instead a great picture, special furniture that you like to sit on, a simpler kitchen but great-functioning kitchen appliances, knives, etc., and......
At least that’s my opinion and I work (and repeatedly fail) at it every day.

4. K: Children's Bath
The word Kkk-osten stands for children's bath, KNX, KfW40, and chimney/controlled residential ventilation

For example, we deliberately have no sliding doors, I used to have a large one, but I prefer the "ordinary" door and in one case the second part that folds wide open.

I meant the exterior sliding doors, but interior doors also come to mind: a must-have for many.

People here are all as proud as can be of their houses,

Same with us..

he’s saving for a patio roof and carport. That’s more what I perceive broadly and how I also know it from my earlier house-building life.

…what’s built inside isn’t noticed, interesting are floor plans that make you curious and how outside the beer is cooled or the meat prepared.

simpler kitchen but great functioning kitchen appliances, knives, etc. and........

My observations differ here: fancy kitchens, but without much high-tech, because eggs fry just as well on a normal stove, chives only need scissors, and meat is cut by the butcher. :)
Thankfully, the trend towards a simple kitchen with only 5 ingredients is coming back.

I don’t have any gimmicks, only a fingerprint scanner and a self-cleaning toilet ;)

My observations differ there: fancy kitchens, but without much high-tech, because you can fry eggs on a regular stove, chives only need scissors, and the meat is cut by the butcher

I must have expressed myself unclearly. I meant a quality kitchen but with less frills, rather one really good knife, one good pan, etc. In terms of appliances, I am equipped with high-tech by my standards, even a 60cm induction hob with built-in extractor hood, but by forum standards, unfortunately rather a low performer.

When it comes to appliances, I'm equipped with high-tech by my standards, so even a 60 cm induction hob with built-in extractor hood, but unfortunately only a low performer by forum standards.

… and you like to tell that here, while there was a nearly parallel discussion about whether to get an 80 or 90 cm hob and an internal extractor that already seems to take up about €3000 worth of living space.
I get you, just fussiness!

When it comes to devices, I am equipped with high-tech by my standards, even a 60cm induction hob with a built-in extractor hood, but unfortunately only a low performer by forum standards.

You are so modest. A real virtue.