Semi-detached house feasibility assessment ideas notes

  • Erstellt am 2020-01-12 10:29:34

kaho674

2020-01-15 11:03:58
  • #1
Oh, you would also like a dressing room? I hope you have not stopped looking for another property...
 

Tolentino

2020-01-15 11:24:44
  • #2
& : I can understand the issue with storage space, and then you simply have to become leaner. I currently have about 8 m² of cellar space divided into two compartments. In one of them, there is really only junk that I haven't needed to touch for three years, until now in autumn a water damage flooded the cellar. The other is half filled with stuff where you could also argue whether you really need it. I would claim that we could get rid of half of that as well. But the fact is that in such cellars or storage rooms you usually only have stuff that you could just as well donate, throw away, or not even acquire in the first place. I would even force myself to live more leanly, which I actually find good. Yes, with children etc., it gets a different perspective, but the Bobbycar can be in the shed when it's not being used; otherwise, it stands around in the living area anyway and not in a storage closet.

I still can't quite understand the panic regarding the utility room. We currently have a washing machine and dryer in a 4 m² shower bath with toilet and manage our laundry just fine. The dirty laundry is collected in the respective rooms where it accumulates. Otherwise, in my view, the 5 m² space in the utility room is sufficient if all the equipment (including washing machine and dryer) fits in. I suspect you simply live in a more rural area and therefore have quite different space requirements or are used to something different. For me, it is already a luxury if every child under 10 has their own room.

Or is there a standard that specifies how many m² of living space per person there must be?



That is explicitly a wish and not a must. But I saw a possibility here to accommodate that and at the same time fulfill the "must" and "should" conditions.

I understand that you find the whole thing too tight overall. But what specifically is absolutely not acceptable from your point of view (that is not primarily due to your expectations)?

No, we are still looking for other properties. Specifically, a plot without building tie, with 500 m² and over 80 interested parties. As I said, the alternatives are scarce.

Thanks and regards

Tolentino
 

kaho674

2020-01-15 11:39:20
  • #3
Specifically: If you build these tubes around the bedroom, those are not rooms, but all "corridors." That has nothing to do with living or life. You fragment the area into a maze and then live like in a hamster cage with lots of tubes. You can't just sell something like that either - no one will take it off your hands again. Money down the drain.

I am not blessed with the happiness of children, but maybe you could ask the moms and dads here with more than 2 children how the laundry mountain differs from 1 child to 3 children? It's not just about clothes. Bedding and towels and the like multiply as well.
 

Tolentino

2020-01-15 11:59:26
  • #4
There is finally an answer from BT regarding KS and DN: 24cm (thickness of the purlins) and 38°. So the technical room in the attic is out, right?



That’s why I planned it as drywall construction. Then in case of a sale, you simply remove it again and have a very large master bedroom or second living room, or you make a "normal" dressing room and storage room out of it. You don’t live or dwell in the dressing room, it’s never larger than in the current design, right? The small separated work niche would be more important to me than a corner in the bedroom or living room. I would also have more space there than the current 50 cm in front of the bed. It’s hard for you to understand, I notice that, but try to accept that this means an increase in space for us in every respect. Really every single room / every living area is larger, except for the non-existent basement. And you are of course right, there are not yet three children, but they then each have more space in their rooms than the one has now. What worries me is the too small living area downstairs. Having the technical / laundry room in the attic would have been really nice, but now it’s out because of the too low KS, right? (see above)



So even though we currently have only 1 child, I have experience with 2 children in Hamburg and can probably extrapolate that. Bed linen and towels are washed immediately during the change, this laundry is not collected as dirty laundry. It’s already like that now and that’s how it should stay. But I understand what you mean, if you need another 1m³ of space to collect laundry, the washing machine and dryer are stacked on top of each other (that’s how it is now). Then there’s plenty of room for a tall cabinet next to it.

Best regards

Tolentino
 

apokolok

2020-01-15 12:19:14
  • #5
Hm... from the outside, it is really not understandable why you cling to this misguided path with all your might.
That has nothing to do with rural living; hardly anyone lives like that in the city either, especially not voluntarily and by choice.
Take a step back and think about what possibilities and needs you have. I mean, you write about a total budget of 330k without land. Or is that included?
That means you have some leeway. You should be able to get something better than this planned hamster cage for the planned 5 people. In your case, it really isn’t about competing over a cheap deal to increase one’s own somewhat more generous one. That happens often enough, but definitely not here.
I mean, you are probably getting into debt up to the limit to then live in an absolute emergency to non-solution.
As I said, I see the way forward for you in the existing property. It also makes no sense to argue that the renovation would bring the existing property up to new construction cost levels. There are plenty of renovations you can do, but definitely don’t have to.
 

kaho674

2020-01-15 12:32:38
  • #6


Yep, that’s intense. Without dormers, it looks like this when boxed off at 1m height:

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With a 38° pitch, you usually box off at about 1.20m because you can hardly use the slope and keep hitting your head. According to the plan below, there would be no room with standing height behind the stairs without a dormer. That’s harsh.
 

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