Salaries, A6 and other unknowns

That's true, the attitude of some people is really out of touch with reality. What really gets on my nerves, however, are all the complainers and the typically German whining. We Germans are quick to point fingers at others instead of questioning ourselves and considering what we can contribute to improving our own situation. The blame is always sought with others first, instead of with oneself. It's also easier to blame others than to admit to oneself that mistakes have been made. I would argue that almost everyone can significantly improve their own situation through reflection and thinking. We are all born stupid; it depends on oneself whether one wants to learn and leave the comfort zone. But so many don’t even see that as an option. They prefer to pity themselves and envy others for the car, the house, the salary, and who knows what else. And that is what it's about for me. Success is, first and foremost, a matter of one's own performance and only in the rarest cases has anything to do with luck.

I know enough people who earn more than €3000 net and haven’t studied. Studying is no guarantee for a high salary. It has much more to do with whether you turn on your brain, are disciplined, and willing to perform.

One could take the public sector as a reference. The salary tables are accessible. An academic with a diploma or master's degree (not bachelor!) is in TV-L 13 and even after many years in the profession does not earn 3,000 euros net. The annual gross salary starts with a 5.

In the metal tariff, it looks a bit better. Shorter working hours and about 10% more salary. Most collectively agreed employed engineers have a 6 at the front of their annual gross salary and about 3,000 net, after long professional experience a 7. Bachelor graduates sometimes have starting salaries below 40,000. Those who earn much more are all over 50. That is my experience from my circle of acquaintances. By net I of course mean tax class 1 or 4.

In my little world, Steffen's numbers hardly ever fit. I am also curious about his construction.

PS: 'Ne E-Klasse is better than an A6 :P

My house, my yacht, my car.....My horse girl.....

You could take the public sector as a reference. The salary tables are accessible. An academic with a diploma or master’s degree (not bachelor’s!) is in TV-L 13 and even after many years in the profession does not earn 3,000 euros net. The annual gross salary starts with a 5.

It looks a bit better in the metal industry tariff. Shorter working hours and around 10% more salary. Most tariff-employed engineers have a 6 at the front of their annual gross salary and about 3,000 net, after long professional experience a 7. Bachelors sometimes have starting salaries under 40,000. Those who earn much more are all over 50. That is my experience from my circle of acquaintances. By net, I of course mean tax class 1 or 4.

Such a stupid comparison. In my world, everyone knows that the public sector simply pays worse than the private sector. Just look where the really good people work! Usually in the private sector!

What kind of rule is that?

Why stupid comparison? Just hold back a bit. I didn't compare anything, I only pointed out a possible reference. As you know, the public sector is not a small sector, so it is quite relevant. I did write that more or much more is earned in the so-called "private sector." By the way, besides technicians there are also historians, Germanists, social scientists and so on; these are also academics, only they hardly find jobs outside the public sector.