Salaries, A6 and other unknowns

Raising the minimum wage is pointless; it only increases purchasing power, which in turn drives up prices.

Moderate inflation is what we need.. 2% inflation would be good.

about the salary:

according to the stepstone salary report 2016 (google it) the banker is included with a nationwide average of all specialists at €64,000. the typical mechanical engineer (which I am) is at €58,500, each including all bonuses and overtime. the average salaries are calculated across all age groups. so if one in mechanical engineering earns €64,000 (that’s what you need for €3000 net), then one earns only €53,000 and thus only about €2500 net.

the average income as a statement is also completely worthless, because the conditions are not given. who is even on this list? employees, self-employed, unemployed, the top 10,000?! as long as this is not clear, the number is very likely manipulated so that it is set too high to make it look better than it is.
because I don’t know anyone here except graduates who even remotely earns €41,000. we don’t have big factories or industry here where companies have to lure people with high salaries. here it’s rather the opposite.

the only number that really says something is the median. it shows who is really in the middle (half earn more, half earn less) and shows where the largest chunk of people actually stands.
the median in 2015 in Germany was €1722 net/month and corresponds EXACTLY to what I already said one page before. an "high income" is considered from €2600/month and "wealthy" from €3450/month. according to the statistics, about 20% of workers reach the "high income" (€2600/month) and another 5% even reach €3450/month. if you roughly calculate it down, about 10% reach €3000/month. so from "everyone" and "everyone I know" everyone is far from 10...

Payday, please cry quietly, ok? Either you accept your situation and the fact that others earn more, OR you make more out of your life yourself, move, educate yourself further, change jobs, etc. Leave your comfort zone, you get it?! THAT is what people who earn more than YOU do!

Always these envy debates in [D...] how tired I am of it. In our neighborhood, they are also consumed by it. The true ugliness of a person is expressed in their envious regulars' table talk, where facts are undermined by hair-raising comparisons and a victim mentality. Nobody needs that!

calm down, I don’t know what you’re reading between the lines but it’s not good for you.

Nafetsm I believe you have understood neither the post nor the discussion.

I have been thinking for a long time about whether I should participate here or not... but some statements really make me smile. Although it is off-topic, I still have to give my two cents on the subject of salary. As you can see, I am an HR specialist. I work in a large DAX 30 company in M and would dare say that I know a bit about salaries. Especially since here in southern Germany the salary structure is very good, apart from the other costs. €3000 net is a good salary and is usually earned only by academics here. Of course, the limits upwards are open, but how many people are there who earn more than €150,000 a year? There are not that many. Besides, the overall package is always important to consider. So you cannot compare apples with oranges. Because do I know if the salary is based on 35 or 40 hours? What about additional payments, etc.?

Well, I find some people here quite arrogant and absolutely out of touch with reality!