Kitchen Planning New Single-Family House - First Offer Nolte

Besides, the interior fittings make up a large part of the price. I assume that many cabinets have no interior equipment and only the explicitly mentioned carousel is present?

Indeed! Make sure you have many drawers and that they are not too tall. That greatly increases usability, but also the price.

What should be in the corner instead of the carousel? We actually found that quite sensible.

Mostly "nothing" (dead corner) is the most sensible solution. With the carousel, you lose space on both sides of the corner. If you had wide drawers on each side there, you would have more storage space and better usability. Are there any nice pictures or videos explaining the solutions?

We think it feels a bit cramped when you have such a long and rather narrow passage to the left and right of the island. Don’t you think?

I don’t know at what design stage you are, or whether all walls are fixed. It could be tight, but it’s not really a passage because the island is only about a meter high. There are good examples in the relevant specialist forums. In any case, it makes a lot of sense to deal with this intensively now. In the end, a water connection in an unfortunate position or missing 10 cm on whichever side can completely rule out an alternative plan.

What are sliding cabinets, what are folding cabinets? Do you mean drawers and (normal) cabinets?
What does partially mean here?

Hello ypg,
I don’t remember 100% anymore, unfortunately we couldn’t take anything with us. According to my memory, the wall cabinets had normal doors, the base cabinets under the window had normal doors, and the remaining cabinets in the island and under the wall cabinets were designed as sliding cabinets. Then there is the upward-opening flap for the microwave above the oven.

It’s not mine with the docked island, but that doesn’t matter.

Certainly a matter of taste, but what would be “yours”?

Not much can be seen! You can see that now there is no space for the SbS fridge because the right-hand side is longer.
You don’t know where the stove will go, where which electrical appliance will be.

SbS fridge is not planned in the offer. This is only a kitchen proposal in the architect’s floor plan. The fridge and freezer are in the lower tall cabinet bottom right. Above it is the oven and above that the cabinet for the microwave. The cooktop is accessible from above in the middle of the island.

You also don’t know the widths of the drawers or how they arrange with the cabinets.
But that is what matters. Also, the interior design makes up a large part of the price. I assume that many cabinets have no interior fittings and only the explicitly named carousel is included?

Basically, I don’t have the details anymore. But it looked very tidy. Under the window there were two wide cabinets, to the right of the sink a narrow towel holder, then the carousel in the corner. Then down again two wide cabinets up to the tall cabinet.
Cutlery trays were included, the towel holder was included. What else is missing in terms of “interior fittings”?

I would try to draw the individual cabinets in a kitchen-compatible grid (larger scale, boxes for 10 or 20 cm) and specify the use of the individual cabinets and drawers.

I will try that later.

What are sliding cabinets, what are folding cabinets? Do you mean drawers and (normal) cabinets?

exactly, one door that is hung on the side. And alternatively the version that slides out into the room

as written above, unfortunately we did not receive any more information about the devices... What is supposed to be in the corner instead of the carousel? We actually found that quite sensible.

With the carousel, you lose space for full-depth cabinets on both sides, which can also be done with pull-outs. I last had a carousel in my Ikea kitchen; in both kitchens from the studio, the consultant always planned with a dead corner from the start, without us needing to say anything about it. If they had asked, I would have requested it that way too. These carousel or corner cabinets are just impractical for everyday use. Carousels are annoying because you quickly get tired of turning them, and items can slip if you turn too fast. And regular corner cabinets (which we currently have in the transition house due to acute space shortage) are enormously impractical. If you really have to fish something out from the very back corner, you go crazy.

As I see it, the sink is now "at the top," "only" cabinets and wall cabinets are on the wall to the right, and at the end of those, the stove and refrigerator are planned. The distance between the sink and stove/refrigerator would be personally way too far for me. Quickly draining pasta. Quickly washing a cucumber. For me, all that belongs much closer together. Maybe the refrigerator and tall cabinet (so a tall cabinet, not a wall cabinet) at the top left (I'm assuming your drawing on graph paper), then the sink, etc., and the stove on the right wall? Where the stove and refrigerator are now, you would even have the opportunity for two tall cabinets again, if you need them. What also bothers me about the current planning is: if someone stands at the stove for a long time, it is hardly possible to comfortably get past the person to reach the kitchen. I also find the deep island cool. Ideal for baking as well.

Most of the time, "nothing" (dead corner) is the most sensible solution. The carousel takes up space on both sides of the corner. If you had wide pull-outs there, you would have more storage space and better usability. Are there any nice pictures or videos explaining the solutions?

So the pure "corner space" is somehow wasted and not accessible?

I don’t know what design stage you are at, or if all walls are already fixed. It could be tight, but it is also not a passageway since the island is just about a meter high. There are nice examples in relevant specialist forums. In any case, it makes a lot of sense to deal with it intensively now.

That’s why we are still dealing with it now. Moving a window or door would be no problem; if something on the walls is to be changed, the architect can still arrange that. Basically, with the L-shape and the island, we have more storage space and also more kitchen than with one long wall and a large island, or is that mistaken?

With the carousel, you just lose space on both sides for full-depth cabinets that you can also make with pull-outs. I last had a carousel in my IKEA kitchen; in both kitchens from the studio, the consultant already planned with a dead corner without us having to discuss it. If they had asked, I would have requested it that way. These carousel or corner cabinets are just impractical for daily use. Carousels are annoying because you quickly get tired of spinning, and things can slip if you turn too fast. And ordinary corner cabinets (which we currently have in the temporary house due to acute lack of space) are enormously impractical. If you really have to fumble something out of the deepest corner, it drives you crazy.

Okay, I understand. We’ll think that over. At first, we were rather glad to use the space, even if not optimally due to the carousel. At least you can store things there that you don’t need daily.