Kitchen Planning New Single-Family House - First Offer Nolte

I am a bit confused: until the end of last month, the floor plan was still being discussed, I did not notice that any windows were already fixedly designated and that the kitchen was to be planned on the draft.

Well, you really still have to check what kind of cabinets you actually have in the plan. You wrote pull-out cabinets, what does that mean? Are there two pull-outs, three, four? Shallow carcass or tall, etc.

We would have to look at that again in another appointment. Since we didn't get that information, I don't have it in detail in my head.

If the budget for the kitchen is tight, then go to the Swede. It's good too. With some assembly skills, you can also manage "nice to haves."

Well, the question is whether that is really much cheaper. If you configure something similar at the Swede, you also end up at 12k. Then I'd rather take the Nolte, right?

I am a bit irritated: until the end of last month, the floor plan was still being discussed, I did not notice that any windows have already been definitively designated and that the kitchen should be planned on the draft.

Why is that irritating? There were no comments about the kitchen in the floor plan discussion. After consulting with the architect, we are supposed to start with the kitchen now since we can still make good changes to the floor plan if something doesn't fit the kitchen. Somehow you have to get around to defining windows, etc.

Well, the question is whether it’s really much cheaper. If you configure something similar at the Swedish store, you also end up at 12k. Then I’d rather take the Nolte, right?

I haven’t looked at your configuration in detail (can’t really, since you only know the outer shape, but not the contents), so I don’t know what your kitchen would cost at Ikea. But as a rough rule of thumb, depending on the appliances, I would estimate 20-50% lower costs at IKEA than at Nolte. However, the quality of the wooden parts as well as the selection options for the cabinets and system parts are also worse/smaller. Whether you notice that in everyday life? No idea. I had a Nolte in the condominium, now in the house an IKEA. The configuration is just quite different. But the drawers pull out and close (including damping), I have used my space well and so far everything holds up well. Some things are not exactly level/straight, but that’s more of an assembly problem. And comparing the professional kitchen installer at Nolte with me at IKEA is a bit unfair. By the way, I got all the drawers and fronts in Poland (Szczecin) and saved another 30% (including travel costs). The carcasses are not cheaper there. Edit: Oh yes, regarding cost comparison Nolte IKEA. For the house, we didn’t even get a Nolte offer after I named my budget (a good 10k). With Nobilia (rather half to a whole level below Nolte) I was at the cheapest provider at 13k without installation. Most others went rather to 15 and 20k. For the IKEA I ended up paying maybe 7-8k. However, also without quartz composite countertop, so you can add another 2-3k for that.

If you configure something similar at the Swede, it's also around 12k. Then I take the , right?

But then you don't get it from Nolte for €13,500.

Oh yes, exactly, that is still missing for me. My prices for the Nobilia kitchen are two to three years old. Nolte today would have to be at least 20% more expensive. So yes, I also believe that your offer either includes no electrical appliances and/or no Nolte furniture and/or no contents in the cabinets (drawers, shelves). The countertop is probably missing as well.

Oh yes, exactly, that is still missing for me. My prices for the Nobilia kitchen are two to three years old. Nolte today would have to be at least 20% more expensive again.
So yes, I also believe that in your offer either no electrical appliances and/or no Nolte furniture and/or no contents in the cabinets (pull-outs, shelves) are included. The countertop is probably missing as well.

Thank you very much for your explanations regarding Ikea, that helps us to create another comparison here.
I can only say what I took away from the appointment. Siemens appliances were included and otherwise it was the Nolte Manhattan kitchen. A 40mm countertop was included. There were pull-out cabinets in the kitchen and under the wall cabinets. Under the sink there is a "normal door", with the same on the left side. That would not bother us, you can store things there that are not needed daily.

We will have the alternative version with a large island offered again. Otherwise, the Nolte offer seems good :)