Floor plan single-family house, approx. 200 sqm - comments welcome

I also tried playing it through: I moved the dimension chains inward and set 36 cm exterior walls. In the kitchen, the tall cabinets are 2.40 m, the island is 100 x 240 with a 90 cm distance to the tall cabinets: it’s already tight. In the guest WC, a toilet is needed (at least 90 cm), a washbasin of 60 cm width and active surface to the left and right plus a mini-shower (80 cm plus wall) 2.40 m... is also not possible... The wardrobe is tiny. Drawn upstairs: the children’s rooms are not generous. In the dressing room of about 1.67 m!!!! only one wardrobe fits. Well, that can be widened a bit, but opposite it there is no more space if the bathroom next door is 1.83 m. A bathtub crosswise could just fit, but lengthwise: 80 cm width plus shelf leave 90 cm for a double washbasin and active surface in front. It just doesn’t fit anywhere ops: P.s. The stairs now have a width of one meter – they were drawn at 70-80?

Thank you for the feedback.

Regarding the bathrooms, we want to wait for the first draft from the architect/developer and then go to a friendly bathroom planner. But the shower on the ground floor is not a must-have, so we have a lot of leeway here.

I would start the bathroom planning. If the desire for a separate toilet is so great, one could also consider creating a more open concept by not strictly separating the dressing room and bathroom. There are fantastic possibilities.

We think the idea is great!

Something is not right. What do your dimensions refer to? I just wanted to think about the parental area.
I took the basic dimensions as 8x4.65m. Exterior walls 36.5 cm, the wall to the stairs as 11.5 cm masonry. I could imagine that for structural reasons it has to be executed as 17.5 cm brick.

If I draw it like this, everything becomes much, much tighter.
So either you took the wrong dimensions for all the furniture and sanitary items, or your dimensions are incorrect. That doesn't make things any easier...

The dimensions are interior dimensions. I believe our program uses wall thicknesses of 10 or 20 cm. We know that doesn’t match, but the architect/developer should still have something to work on.

I also simulated it:
I took the dimension chains inside and set 36 cm exterior walls.
In the kitchen, it’s 2.40 m to the tall cabinets, the island is 100 x 240 with a distance of 90 cm to the tall cabinets: it’s already tight.
In the guest WC it needs a toilet (at least 90 cm), a washbasin 60 cm wide and active area to the left and right plus a mini-shower (80 cm plus wall) 2.40 m... that’s also not given... The wardrobe is tiny.
I drew the upstairs: the children’s rooms are not spacious.
In the dressing room of about 1.67 m!!!! only one wardrobe fits. Well, you can make it a bit wider, but there is no room opposite if the bathroom next door is 1.83 m. A bathtub lengthwise could barely fit, but widthwise: 80 cm plus shelf remain 90 cm for a double washbasin and active area in front.

That doesn’t fit at all ops:

P.S. The stairs now have a width of one meter – were drawn at 70-80?

As said, the wall thicknesses don’t match on our end (see above). We first focused on the interior dimensions (definitely a beginner’s mistake :P):

- For wardrobe and guest WC we still have a lot of leeway (see above). The kitchen has 3 m cabinets each, and the distance from the cooking island to the cabinets is 1.00 m (can of course be moved further away).

- Guest WC (note see above)

- Wardrobe has 2x1.50 m cabinets; distance 1.10 m… too little?!

- Children’s rooms: 15 sqm are absolutely sufficient in our view. They should also play outside sometimes…

- Dressing room is 2.10 m wide and the bathroom 2.45 m. But maybe we will actually make it quite open.

- Stairs are 90 cm.

But extensive discussion about this probably only makes sense once the “professional” plan is there.

As I said, the wall thicknesses don’t match for us (see above). We first focused on the internal dimensions (definitely a beginner’s mistake

Again: I took your dimension chains as internal measurements.
And it doesn’t add up.

The dressing room is 2.10m wide and the bathroom 2.45m. But maybe we will actually make it quite open.

No!
Look: if you have 4 meters of office space to the right of the stairs, you have 4 meters on the upper floor for dressing room and bathroom minus a partition wall.
With 4 meters you won’t do justice to either of those rooms, not even close, as you have drawn it.
And yes: 2.10 is still too little if the wardrobes face each other. And where is the bathroom door at all?

We still have a lot of leeway with cloakroom and guest WC (see above).

What is “a lot of leeway” to you? You have to cut something back there because it doesn’t fit. That is not called leeway. You are making the furnishings narrow in the program so that it fits.

No! Look: if you have 4 meters of office space right next to the stairs, you have 4 meters upstairs for dressing room and bathroom minus a partition wall. With 4 meters you won't do justice to either of these rooms, not even close, as you have drawn it. And yes: 2.10 meters is still too little if closets face each other. And where is the bathroom door anyway?

The office is incorrectly dimensioned (it is 4.70m instead of 4.38m). But even with 4.38m you don't get to your numbers..

What is "a lot of leeway" for you? You have to take something away because it doesn't fit. That is not called leeway. You just make the furniture narrower in the program so that it fits.

Leeway means that we might possibly leave out the shower and instead, for example, enlarge the wardrobe. And NO, we have not artificially reduced the furniture!

The office is incorrectly dimensioned (it is 4.70m instead of 4.38m). But even at 4.38m you do not get your numbers..

Then nothing is correct with you or your drawing at all. Nothing is applicable because your numbers are fictitious and have nothing to do with the drawing. Sorry, but a question: what do we want to discuss here?

Sorry, but a question: what do we want to discuss here?

I don’t want to discuss anything with you, but as mentioned several times, I am waiting for an architect’s plan (see above). So far, the office dimension is the only measurement that was wrong and it even means that significantly more space is available than you thought. Your unconstructive criticism is unfortunately not helpful at all and leads to no progress or improvements. Please don’t get me wrong, we were and still are open to any suggestions and also harsh criticism, but from you only come statements like: 4.38m interior dimension equals 1.67m dressing room + 1.83m bathroom. Then the partition wall would be 88cm?! If not even a calculator, then at least a rough estimate.. You are welcome to continue looking for incorrect measurements (and you will certainly find a centimeter or two more through manual measurement) or you can wait for the correct plan..