Floor plan evaluation single-family house

  • Erstellt am 2011-12-04 12:09:10

Singerl

2011-12-06 19:22:03
  • #1
Hi,

it is really tough to read the answer from Lynx1984. Of course, there is a lot of truth to it. First of all, I have to say that we have already made a detailed list regarding which rooms should contain what. Also, we do not want an architect’s house with many frills, etc.

Therefore, I ask you again for a rough analysis of the floor plan to really not overlook the major mistakes.

So Lynx1984, what pitfalls do you or an architect see in this floor plan?

Thanks and best regards
Singerl
 

Lynx1984

2011-12-07 09:22:50
  • #2
Hello Singerl,

without knowing your exact list it is of course difficult to give a complete evaluation of the floor plan, but here are some points to reconsider:

Ground floor:
- A lot of space is sacrificed for the cellar replacement room and garage. Due to the layout, the driveway will be huge compared to the house.
- Pathway design in the kitchen. How is the route to the "pantry" from the front door?
- The dining nook is a blind spot. It will look very uncomfortable to have windows on 3 sides and on one side an open kitchen. Eating on display, reinterpreted...
- How do you want to arrange the sofas and the wall unit in the living room? No matter how you turn it ... Either you have to look at an angle, have the south-facing windows at your back, or you block the paths towards the kitchen.
- Should a fireplace/stove be installed in the living room at the chimney? Why exactly there?
- The cellar replacement room loses huge space because of the slanted wall. In my opinion this is unnecessary.
- Technical room same applies.
- Guest WC is difficult to fit WC + sink due to the door swing.
- Hallway: In such a large house I would miss a niche for the wardrobe.
- Hallway: Spatial impression: In such a large house you first walk straight into a wall in the hallway => house does not feel like a villa!

Upper floor:
- Access to the bedroom through the office is a disaster! Not only do you waste a lot of space in both rooms, you also create a complicated little house...
- Sleeping: When entering you run into a wall.
- Sleeping: How do you want to place the bed? Everything seems very narrow and uncomfortable to me, although flooded with light through 3 windows... With so much floor area in the whole house do you really want to confine yourselves to such a small bedroom?
- Walk-in closet significantly less usable because of slanted walls! Comfort gain vs. loss of space does not match.
- Access to the bathroom through the tiny hallway is difficult. Door to the office blocks the way. Accidents are preprogrammed.
- In the office it will certainly be difficult to place a desk well. Whoever doesn't like everyone watching the screen from behind won't be happy!
- Play hallway sounds nice, but would you really let your children climb around the stairs? Hallway is relatively large, unfortunately without functional gain. A switchback staircase wouldn’t even be necessary!
- Storage space is lacking on the upper floor!

I think most compromises are made because of the angular shape, which doesn’t fit at all with your other floor plan wishes. Does it have to be this angular shape? Also regarding energy efficiency it is not exactly beneficial! So please reconsider this angular shape once more! Maybe do a bold counterproposal for yourselves with a completely square floor plan... As a milder form, don’t make the angle so sharp...
It is hard to discard hours of work – but after all, an architect has to study for years... A master has never fallen from the sky.

Something else: You write it will not be an architect’s house? Then who is making your floor plans? Hopefully not just a simple draftsman of a general contractor, who is not even paid for possible own ideas/improvements and therefore only "copies"?!

Best regards
 

CADAMaRa

2011-12-09 18:01:54
  • #3
Hello Singerl,

what kind of building services (heating) are you installing? If it’s nothing spectacular, just a standard gas condensing boiler, then you could also combine the basement replacement room and the technical room. The walls generally seem a bit thin to me, so don’t be surprised if the rooms turn out a bit smaller. How are you planning to build? Brick by brick or a prefab wooden house? The wall thicknesses differ significantly there. The dressing room upstairs also seems a bit small to me. You should adhere to minimum dimensions there so you don’t feel cramped. Otherwise, the upper floor looks quite nice. If you want, I can send you revised drafts.

Best regards CADAMaRa
 

Singerl

2011-12-09 20:08:36
  • #4
Hello, thank you very much for your thoughts. I would like to comment on the individual points.

Ground floor:
- A lot of space was sacrificed for the cellar replacement room and garage. Due to the layout, the driveway will be enormously large compared to the house.
The driveway is supposed to be used by the children as a play area. We are building behind my parents' house on agricultural land. Therefore, there is enough garden available.
- Routing in the kitchen. What is the path to the "pantry" from the front door?
This is currently a big problem. I would like to have an additional access to the kitchen under the stairs. Unfortunately not possible with a solid staircase.
- The dining nook is a dead angle. It will seem very uncomfortable to have windows on 3 sides and an open kitchen on one side. Dining on a showcase plate reinterpreted...
I don't feel that way. We have no neighbors. So only a view of the neighboring field. I also don't find the openness to the kitchen so problematic. A room partition with glass is supposed to separate the kitchen a bit later.
- How do you want to arrange the sofas and the wall unit in the living room? No matter how you turn it... Either you have to look around a corner, have the south window side at your back, or block the paths towards the kitchen.
The TV is on the long side, on the wall to the cellar replacement room. Due to the width of the room, a wall unit in connection with the sofa is possible. The sofa is only supposed to go up to the entrance door. Behind it is open space.
- Should there be a fireplace/stove by the chimney in the living room? Why exactly there?
Where would you consider the optimal room? I thought a central wood stove would be optimal for the temperature distribution in the house. To support the central heating.
- Cellar replacement room loses huge space due to the slanted wall. In my opinion, that is unnecessary.
This problem was then fixed. See new sketch.
- Technical room applies analogously.
Fixed.
- Guest WC is difficult to accommodate toilet + sink due to the door swing.
I hope the size is enough for a urinal, toilet, and sink with mirror.
Otherwise, I will try to relocate the WC room in the hallway. I just can’t find a better place.
- Hallway: In such a big house, I would miss a niche for the coat rack.
I want to install the coat rack next to the front door. The shoes go under the stairs.
- Hallway: Spatial impression: In such a big house, you first run full into a wall in the hallway => house doesn't look like a villa.
The front door is almost opposite the living room door. You can practically look through the whole house into the garden. Of course, I know the hallway is relatively small.

Upper floor:
- Access to the bedroom through the office is a disaster! You not only lose a lot of space in both rooms, but you also create an inconvenient little house...
I have already heard this from many people. Therefore, it was radically changed.
- Sleeping: When entering, you run into a wall.
Changed.
- Sleeping: How do you want to place the bed? Everything seems very narrow and uncomfortable to me, even though flooded with light through 3 windows... With so much floor space throughout the entire house, do you really want to confine yourself to such a small bedroom?
A 2m bed with nightstands fits exactly next to the dressing room.
- Dressing room significantly less usable due to slanted walls! Comfort gain vs. space loss doesn’t match.
I just like the dressing room that way. Of course, not very large but hopefully sufficient.
- Access to the bathroom through the tiny hallway is difficult. Door to the office blocks the way. Accidents are pre-programmed.
Solved.
- It will certainly be difficult to place a desk well in the office. Anyone who doesn’t like everyone looking over their shoulder at the screen will not be happy with that!
Solved.
- Play hallway sounds nice, but would you really let your children climb around the stairs? The hallway is relatively large, unfortunately without a functional gain. A quarter-turn staircase wouldn’t even be necessary!
The stairs are secured with a gate. That thing is everywhere.
- There is a lack of storage space on the upper floor!
I know, I know.

The house shape is fixed, I am not considering a square shape on the building plot. Let others build that. I just find this one cool and something different. :D

I have already been to the architect. Unfortunately, it is too expensive for me. Actually, few people build with an architect’s help here. The site management will be done by my father in connection with me. He also already has experience with 2 houses. I think that fits.
I have also already hired a good structural engineer for the plan drawing. He does it relatively cheaply for me.

I am very grateful for further opinions. Otherwise, thanks for your opinions. It has already moved me a step forward.

Is the gallery possible and sensible with this small hallway size?

Best regards and thanks, Singerl
 

Singerl

2011-12-09 20:16:20
  • #5
Hello CADAMaRa,

so we want a heat pump with well technology or surface collectors. In addition, a large water storage tank of 700 liters so that the pump does not have to switch on constantly. No solar system but KFW70 requirements should be met. The exterior walls are 36.5 cm solid masonry with W08/W07 filling. The mentioned partition wall is a 24 cm solid and load-bearing wall, so not that thin at all. Due to the 19.5 kb limit, the plan is already very rough and therefore not recognizable as such.
I know the dressing room is really small, but I can’t find a solution for it.
So please send me your drafts. I would be very interested.

Thanks
Singerl
 

Bauexperte

2011-12-10 13:04:29
  • #6
Hello,


Reconsider the attached solution?

In general, saving money is good, but with what you have in mind, you won't get far without a good, capable architect. Besides, I am almost convinced that your budget – even as a self-builder – will not be sufficient ;)

Kind regards

 

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