Floor plan planning for our single-family house Single-family house in SH

Where does the idea actually come from to place the front door on the south side?

I think it's because the garage is supposed to extend to the boundary on the north side in front, leaving no access there as the plot is too narrow. Entrance via the gable is already really tricky at that width. South remains the first option.

What I don’t quite understand: for my 190sqm at 450k it was called completely unrealistic, and here we are talking about 230sqm for 500k. Why isn’t it called unrealistic here? The price is even lower

Because you have a slope. That can quickly cost 50 to 100K. Or has that become less of an issue by now? Did you already calculate extra money for that? It may have been overlooked in the discussion?

I see, well-rested, many of your points.

Mmh, well this living room variant is not my thing at all. I am always in favor of tearing down walls for more spaciousness, rather than putting them up.

I don’t like the wall today as much as I did last night. But while the entire open-plan space suffers, the living room wins for me because it gets a rather separate corner.

And you’re looking at the pantry door again while chopping vegetables. I find that really unfortunate.

I also talked to my wife about that yesterday. We have a bit of a hard time seeing the problem there. For one, we don’t chop vegetables all the time, and anyway, you shouldn’t be looking around in the area when handling knives, and with a slight turn of the head to the left (and without the living room wall), you have the living-dining area in view directly…

If there were at least some space opposite for a few stools so that you could look someone in the face who is watching. But the stools would be right in the walkway.

Goodness, that sounds like a bar in the kitchen

The enclosed utility room is not desirable to me either. Especially not over the guest WC. Ask yourself whether you really gain necessary space through this, or if it is just a maximum square meter expansion for the study, which might be unnecessary?

In my view, a square meter maximization in the study can never be unnecessary

Somehow the only word that comes to mind is "tasteless".

That is more of an approach that occupies me. We have such a big house and solve it so tastelessly!

Also, the utility room seems very small to me now. You also have other things that fit well in there, like tools, vacuum cleaners, and such. The space there is almost always too little.

In my plan, the utility room would really be just a utility room. So no vacuum cleaner, no tools, etc. I hopefully have to go in there very rarely. To me, that belongs in a (somewhat larger and strictly speaking then somewhat misnamed) pantry.

The kids’ bathroom disposal is now even more questionable – almost directly above the living room. Not even a kitchen wall nearby.

It is indeed above the kitchen/dining room, but you’re absolutely right. I hadn’t noticed that last night.

I think because the garage on the north side shall go all the way to the boundary in front and there is no access anymore, as the plot is too narrow. Access via the gable is really tricky given the width. The south remains the first option.

Thanks for explaining, even if it’s a carport (the city won’t approve a garage), that was exactly our thought process. By having the entrance on the eaves side you definitely save some circulation space to access the “long” house.

My floor plan draft file is starting to look like hieroglyphs…

Yes, no one could have guessed that you want to put your tools in the pantry. Cleaning rags, mops, etc. as well. Hmm. Don’t you want to think it over again? I mean, that’s why it’s often called HAR / utility room, because buckets and the like can be wonderfully stacked there without the Christmas roast suddenly smelling like bleach.

Counter in the kitchen is uncool? Well, I like watching others work.
Okay, if while chopping vegetables or even breading schnitzels you keep staring at your boring pantry door instead of the garden, then think of me.

So, a bar counter wouldn't be my thing either. It's early 2000s, right?

Wir tun uns etwas schwer damit das Problem darin zu sehen.

Ultimately, you always have to see yourself and your wife there. There are many views here, each with a different opinion. I wouldn't have any problems with a door either. And a wall also has other features, such as the storage of dish towels, pinboards, or a calendar.

Because you have a slope. That can quickly cause a loss of 50 to 100K. Or has that situation changed by now? Have you already set aside extra money for it? Possibly that got lost in the discussion?

But both are purely the house price. Don't the costs for the slope rather occur in the ancillary construction costs if you build without a basement?