Floor plan MGH 200QM - Evaluation ideas

  • Erstellt am 2021-11-30 16:33:41

ypg

2021-11-30 21:55:40
  • #1

Yes, you will probably hear them if they then have a beer in the kitchen afterwards ;)

… which is equivalent to a change of use. Specifically: a garage cannot be used as a storage room. At least not officially or legally.

I’ll help:
A) A bathroom has a soil pipe for wastewater and sewage. Where would that be?
B) Grandma lives downstairs and you with the two teens upstairs: is an 8 sqm bathroom enough or better 10 sqm?
Personally, I recommend a bathtub at that age!
I can’t share your concern that the upper floor is too large. The children’s rooms can be somewhat equalized by making the more rectangular room downstairs a bit narrower -> move the partition wall.
Otherwise, I find the upper floor quite good… you can straighten the hallway with the TV wall.
The first third is, in my opinion, somewhat messed up. Here I agree with .
A wardrobe is missing and not significantly present, freezer/utility room is way too small, but there is a lot of wasted circulation space that is neither appropriate for the age nor furniture-friendly, so many corners and recesses are present. All the space that is circular is basically superfluous or lost space.
You are trying, like others, to plan the jack of all trades, but that usually happens at the expense of everyone.
If grandma gets a glass of milk in the evening, she’s standing in her nightgown in front of your guests. A separated staircase house excludes that.
The bedrooms are anything but barrier-free, not to mention the bathrooms.
I like the building style itself. The stairway could be too short… I read 2.70?!
The hallway/entrance is too closed off to be equated with openness ;)
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os24laenger

2021-12-01 09:27:55
  • #2

Yes, an open staircase is indeed nicer, but if someone lives upstairs on their own (child and partner), then it’s also annoying for everyone if we always see them coming and going.


I think the wardrobe can still fit in the hallway.


I have a door of 1m, hallway 1.3m, in front of the bed 1.2m, next to the bed 1m. The bathroom is tight, yes, but not impossible. It probably wouldn’t be enough for a TÜV certificate, okay, but maybe you can explain what doesn’t fit?


Yes, “rest” is right, the room is also at the bottom of the priority list upstairs. The bathroom is too small I agree, but I wanted to align the walls with the dining room walls (statics). Possibly I have to further reduce the wall between the bathroom and the chill area (making chill smaller) and ignore statics.


Yes, however it is a hallway 2.3m wide and the only place where a closet can still be put against the wall.

Thanks for the input anyway.
 

os24laenger

2021-12-01 09:39:15
  • #3

Yeah, they are probably allowed to do that upstairs in their chill room :).


Like 80% of the garages I know..


The idea was a shaft in the dining room, ok it’s even smaller but the beer crates have to go somewhere too.

It’s an either/or situation. Either the kids live with us, or they have moved out and we can bring in a grandma/grandpa. Both at the same time won’t work (for long).


I don’t deny that, the solution would be to bring the bedroom entrance into the hallway, which I like even less. The hallway is dirty (winter, shoes, etc.), I don’t want to walk barefoot through there, visible from outside is possible, and mentioned kids coming home at night.


Only the lower floor is supposed to be barrier-free.
I like the building style itself. The staircase could be too short… I read 2.70?!


Well, I somehow need a vestibule.
 

os24laenger

2021-12-01 10:08:40
  • #4
Here again, briefly, my summary:

The house can only be smaller if we go for the classic layout (living on the ground floor, bathroom and sleeping upstairs), otherwise there is already too little space downstairs (hallway too small, technology room too small, bedroom bathroom actually also too small if 100% barrier-free design is required).

Regarding technology, I need help.
The north wall in the utility room is just under 2.5 m. I need a heat pump (60 cm tower with everything inside, available from Nibe), washing machine and optionally a dryer tower – 60 cm. Cabinet for other technology like photovoltaic inverter, battery (just provision for space), some IT equipment. Electricity/water can be on the west wall. Controlled residential ventilation can be on the ceiling. We dry laundry outside, in bad weather sometimes in the living room or guest room upstairs or something (or the useless hallway :) )
Have I forgotten something very important?
Cleaning closet can still go under the stairs.
I have roughly sketched the ground floor with wardrobe (0.5 x 2) and technology room equipped.
On the upper floor, a bit down along the bathroom wall. Possibly exchanging the bedroom and bathroom would be advantageous for plumbing, the disadvantage would be that my bedroom would be more in the living area of the upstairs occupant and not so quiet anymore (chill or kitchen right next door).

 

haydee

2021-12-01 10:09:28
  • #5
Draw a bed with an interior measurement of 2 meters. Then a slatted frame, like in a hospital bed, can be installed. Sometimes it is faster than you think to need the parts. Then you need assistance with walking aids as well as help from people. It does not have to be forever. At the moment, for example, it can simply be a missing follow-up treatment like with my aunt.

I would plan more for now. Adolescents require more separation than small children. Look, you have a separated staircase. At 1 a.m., the youngsters want pizza and stand in front of your bedroom door. What is the use of the separation? Privacy in a multi-generation house is important, but it is not a multi-family house. The children want birthday parties and barbecues, then they go into the garden and thus your kitchen is used. I myself lived for a long time in a multi-generation house and many friends and acquaintances do so. It is more open, fluid.

I would open the staircase, make the kitchen and dining area the central point. Whether you live there as four, with grandparents or one of the children with a partner upstairs. Separate living spaces, make them separable and from there the access to the bedroom with bathroom.
 

pagoni2020

2021-12-01 10:27:56
  • #6


I agree.
I believe that still too many future situations want to be considered. However, there are a thousand others like that and then the next thousand of them occur. I would pre-plan the basic, highly probable things, the rest will sort itself out.
 

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