HansDampf88
2022-01-28 22:14:45
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Hey folks, I have no idea why I was linked here in another thread and unfortunately don’t have time to read through the 45 pages there. Maybe there are some parallels, but be that as it may. Let’s keep it factual here :)
So, I received a current daily calculation yesterday (according to his latest tenders, including the neighboring house he planned and is currently overseeing) from my architect. To recap the rough key data: 145 sqm living space, 200 sqm with usable area, basement due to hillside location, garage in the basement. 675 sqm plot (land value 85 € / sqm) is paid for.
Basement is brick-built, no waterproof concrete (no “white tub”). House without frills, gable roof without dormers, etc.
High-end standard fittings (here I see, depending on price development, some potential to reduce certain items a bit)
Architect’s assessment of the material situation: wood tends to get more expensive again, construction steel cheaper, on average everything is expected to stabilize at current prices, they won’t fall again. Availability is okay again now. Of course no guarantee, but a crazy year like last one seems rather unlikely.
Earthworks: €10,250
Shell construction works: €142,000
Sealing works: €8,300
Sewer works: €3,570
Carpentry works: €12,500
Roofers and plumbers: €17,850
Scaffolding: €3,000
Windows, front door, garage door: €27,300
Electric: €17,850
Heating / sanitary: €46,500
Interior plaster: €20,250
Interior finishing / insulation: €23,800
Screed: €6,000
Tiling works: €9,520
Joinery works: €9,520
Railings: €3,000
Floor covering works: €19,040
Painting works: €15,500
Exterior plaster: €19,000
Terrace sealing and covering (loggia on garage): €3,500
House connections: €4,200
Additional costs:
Architecture, statics and construction supervision: €28,850
Surveying: €3,250
Building permit: €900
That makes a total of €455,000.
Now I noticed that quite some additional costs are still missing, and I tried to inform myself as comprehensively as possible and would like to ask you to check for completeness if you want:
Insurances: €1,500
Construction power / construction water: €3,500
Porta potty: €250 borrowed from a buddy
Construction fence: €250 borrowed from a buddy
Registration of mortgage: €2,000
Test engineer?! According to my research in NRW not required for building class 1-2
Possibly removal and landfill?! Architect says he gladly takes the remaining soil that is not needed for other construction projects, he constantly has demand, but would probably still want to budget something
Outdoor facilities: €20,000 (to be done step by step, materials only, rest DIY – still want to include material costs in financing)
Kitchen: €15,000
Furniture etc.: €7,500
When I add up the amounts, deduct our equity and own work (which are still calculated rather conservatively), I come to a financing amount of €405k.
About our own work: shell construction by a bricklayer crew with 3 people + building materials directly by the client and client’s help. Joinery by father-in-law (joiner), earthworks by buddy (I rent the excavator directly, he carries out the work), electric by brother-in-law (master craftsman), floors, painting, interior insulation and drywall myself. For quite a few trades I know people (as it is in the countryside...), but that would then flow in rather spontaneously and is initially not included.
All amounts are gross values. Do you find this plausible, or what do you notice / what is missing?
Best regards
So, I received a current daily calculation yesterday (according to his latest tenders, including the neighboring house he planned and is currently overseeing) from my architect. To recap the rough key data: 145 sqm living space, 200 sqm with usable area, basement due to hillside location, garage in the basement. 675 sqm plot (land value 85 € / sqm) is paid for.
Basement is brick-built, no waterproof concrete (no “white tub”). House without frills, gable roof without dormers, etc.
High-end standard fittings (here I see, depending on price development, some potential to reduce certain items a bit)
Architect’s assessment of the material situation: wood tends to get more expensive again, construction steel cheaper, on average everything is expected to stabilize at current prices, they won’t fall again. Availability is okay again now. Of course no guarantee, but a crazy year like last one seems rather unlikely.
Earthworks: €10,250
Shell construction works: €142,000
Sealing works: €8,300
Sewer works: €3,570
Carpentry works: €12,500
Roofers and plumbers: €17,850
Scaffolding: €3,000
Windows, front door, garage door: €27,300
Electric: €17,850
Heating / sanitary: €46,500
Interior plaster: €20,250
Interior finishing / insulation: €23,800
Screed: €6,000
Tiling works: €9,520
Joinery works: €9,520
Railings: €3,000
Floor covering works: €19,040
Painting works: €15,500
Exterior plaster: €19,000
Terrace sealing and covering (loggia on garage): €3,500
House connections: €4,200
Additional costs:
Architecture, statics and construction supervision: €28,850
Surveying: €3,250
Building permit: €900
That makes a total of €455,000.
Now I noticed that quite some additional costs are still missing, and I tried to inform myself as comprehensively as possible and would like to ask you to check for completeness if you want:
Insurances: €1,500
Construction power / construction water: €3,500
Porta potty: €250 borrowed from a buddy
Construction fence: €250 borrowed from a buddy
Registration of mortgage: €2,000
Test engineer?! According to my research in NRW not required for building class 1-2
Possibly removal and landfill?! Architect says he gladly takes the remaining soil that is not needed for other construction projects, he constantly has demand, but would probably still want to budget something
Outdoor facilities: €20,000 (to be done step by step, materials only, rest DIY – still want to include material costs in financing)
Kitchen: €15,000
Furniture etc.: €7,500
When I add up the amounts, deduct our equity and own work (which are still calculated rather conservatively), I come to a financing amount of €405k.
About our own work: shell construction by a bricklayer crew with 3 people + building materials directly by the client and client’s help. Joinery by father-in-law (joiner), earthworks by buddy (I rent the excavator directly, he carries out the work), electric by brother-in-law (master craftsman), floors, painting, interior insulation and drywall myself. For quite a few trades I know people (as it is in the countryside...), but that would then flow in rather spontaneously and is initially not included.
All amounts are gross values. Do you find this plausible, or what do you notice / what is missing?
Best regards