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2017-09-14 10:46:16
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My email to the electrician and the site manager:
Hello everyone,
I don’t even know where to start?!
Today we were on the construction site with an experienced electrician, the head of a renowned company, but even a layperson can see that there has been quite a mess here.
See pictures.
Point 1:
Let’s start with the cables for the roller shutter motors. These motors will break down sooner or later.
It would be good if the cable for them could also be easily replaced.
Although the cable was drawn into a conduit, this conduit has a curve that is far too tight!
This contradicts the manufacturer's specifications.
Furthermore, a conduit must lead into the installation box and not stop shortly before it, so that only the cable comes into the box.
As a result, the cable is plastered over, and the conduit is pointless; then it could have been laid directly in the wall without a conduit.
So we will never be able to pull the cable through here.
Point 2:
TV cable/satellite cable, which we have separately installed in conduits at an extra cost (star wiring), since XXX only provides a single-cable solution that is not recommended for satellite.
Here the same applies, curves that are far too tight (90° corners), in addition the cables and conduit have been hammered and crushed into the ground with staples (are those even allowed?), so that the line definitely suffers, or is probably already defective in parts.
The impedance will increase because of this, and if you’re unlucky, you will sooner or later no longer receive signals, or only very weakly.
Here again, the conduit was not extended into the box.
Please replace all cables with NEW cables and lay them properly, without kinks, without crushing, etc.
Attached is also a picture of how it should look!
Point 3:
The power cables, here the insulation should also reach into the box.
Again, the cables are crushed with staples!
Point 4:
I had drawn the bed in the bedroom with chalk, part of it is no longer visible because of the drywall. The desired two-way switching in the bedroom is currently completely behind the headboard.
The switch is much too low and would disappear completely behind the bed. We have a box spring bed. We actually thought the switch would be placed to the left and right next to the sockets.
Please fix!
Point 5: (@ B.)
I have not yet received an answer regarding the savings or cost reduction if we omit the telephone sockets.
Point 6: (@ P.)
I have also not yet received an answer about which holes I am allowed to route the cables through and how much space I have.
Point 7:
I find it somewhat confusing that we are not allowed to place a box/switch in the ring beam, but at the same time a slot may be chiseled all the way through.
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The electrician’s reply:
Dear Mr. xxx,
please let us finish our electrical installation first. When we finally plaster all our cables including around the box, we will of course ensure that the cables are inside the box.
Stapling the cables to the floor with staples is perfectly permissible and standard practice for NYY-J cables, as well as for the conduit. The TV cable is definitely not crushed since it lies in an M20 protective conduit. Ultimately, all cables will be checked by us again.
The roller shutter cable lies in a protective conduit and is not intended to be used as a pull conduit for cable replacement in the event of a defect. If the motor is defective, the cable will be disconnected at the motor.
A wall slot will be milled and is a maximum of 1.5 cm deep and does not affect the structural integrity.
I kindly ask that you direct all future questions to the site manager Mr. P. He will then get in touch with me.
Thank you in advance.
My reply again:
Even if the cables “should not” be crushed, I will never get them out again because they are hammered in so tightly, and the curves, more like corners, are much too small.
His reply again:
Hello Mr. H.,
the conduit is only a protective conduit for the cables in the screed and plaster and is not intended as a pull conduit. If this is desired, separate pull boxes must be installed in the screed or in the wall, as a new cable can never be pulled over the length of the existing cable. (DIN 18015-3 installation zones)
What do you think? Am I right?
Sorry
My email to the electrician and the site manager:
Hello everyone,
I don’t even know where to start?!
Today we were on the construction site with an experienced electrician, the head of a renowned company, but even a layperson can see that there has been quite a mess here.
See pictures.
Point 1:
Let’s start with the cables for the roller shutter motors. These motors will break down sooner or later.
It would be good if the cable for them could also be easily replaced.
Although the cable was drawn into a conduit, this conduit has a curve that is far too tight!
This contradicts the manufacturer's specifications.
Furthermore, a conduit must lead into the installation box and not stop shortly before it, so that only the cable comes into the box.
As a result, the cable is plastered over, and the conduit is pointless; then it could have been laid directly in the wall without a conduit.
So we will never be able to pull the cable through here.
Point 2:
TV cable/satellite cable, which we have separately installed in conduits at an extra cost (star wiring), since XXX only provides a single-cable solution that is not recommended for satellite.
Here the same applies, curves that are far too tight (90° corners), in addition the cables and conduit have been hammered and crushed into the ground with staples (are those even allowed?), so that the line definitely suffers, or is probably already defective in parts.
The impedance will increase because of this, and if you’re unlucky, you will sooner or later no longer receive signals, or only very weakly.
Here again, the conduit was not extended into the box.
Please replace all cables with NEW cables and lay them properly, without kinks, without crushing, etc.
Attached is also a picture of how it should look!
Point 3:
The power cables, here the insulation should also reach into the box.
Again, the cables are crushed with staples!
Point 4:
I had drawn the bed in the bedroom with chalk, part of it is no longer visible because of the drywall. The desired two-way switching in the bedroom is currently completely behind the headboard.
The switch is much too low and would disappear completely behind the bed. We have a box spring bed. We actually thought the switch would be placed to the left and right next to the sockets.
Please fix!
Point 5: (@ B.)
I have not yet received an answer regarding the savings or cost reduction if we omit the telephone sockets.
Point 6: (@ P.)
I have also not yet received an answer about which holes I am allowed to route the cables through and how much space I have.
Point 7:
I find it somewhat confusing that we are not allowed to place a box/switch in the ring beam, but at the same time a slot may be chiseled all the way through.
--
The electrician’s reply:
Dear Mr. xxx,
please let us finish our electrical installation first. When we finally plaster all our cables including around the box, we will of course ensure that the cables are inside the box.
Stapling the cables to the floor with staples is perfectly permissible and standard practice for NYY-J cables, as well as for the conduit. The TV cable is definitely not crushed since it lies in an M20 protective conduit. Ultimately, all cables will be checked by us again.
The roller shutter cable lies in a protective conduit and is not intended to be used as a pull conduit for cable replacement in the event of a defect. If the motor is defective, the cable will be disconnected at the motor.
A wall slot will be milled and is a maximum of 1.5 cm deep and does not affect the structural integrity.
I kindly ask that you direct all future questions to the site manager Mr. P. He will then get in touch with me.
Thank you in advance.
My reply again:
Even if the cables “should not” be crushed, I will never get them out again because they are hammered in so tightly, and the curves, more like corners, are much too small.
His reply again:
Hello Mr. H.,
the conduit is only a protective conduit for the cables in the screed and plaster and is not intended as a pull conduit. If this is desired, separate pull boxes must be installed in the screed or in the wall, as a new cable can never be pulled over the length of the existing cable. (DIN 18015-3 installation zones)
What do you think? Am I right?