Cost planning - core renovation of farmhouse / country house

  • Erstellt am 2021-09-03 10:37:58

ypg

2021-11-27 20:00:11
  • #1
Hmm… in the noise thread you said and also often defined that it is only music that bothers you. … Why do you have to cancel the full bath? That does not stop the external noises either.
 

aero2016

2021-11-27 20:22:39
  • #2

then it is actually better to look for something new.
I once sold a house too because the neighborhood bothered me so much.

On the topic, I can say that a full renovation costs at least as much per square meter as a new build.
That is also logical, because on the one hand you have to demolish, and on the other hand you have to put the new in again. But this is more complex than in a new build, where the construction process can be somewhat optimized, and in an existing building there are simply many limiting factors. So you have the costs of the new, plus the higher effort, plus the demolition.
 

pagoni2020

2021-11-28 15:59:18
  • #3
In general, I find it positive that one consistently does things instead of being paralyzed and holding on just because it's usually "not done," like selling a house right away. We could have held on to our previous, extremely comfortable living situation for a long time, but the circumstances or prospects did not seem positive to us. After a few weeks, I decided for myself that we want to act independently again instead of waiting for the disturbing factors to perhaps resolve themselves someday. For us, that was more about uncertainty regarding right of way, potential conflicts with a yet unknown buyer of the directly adjacent historic building, etc. Whether everything has improved in every respect... probably not, but the mere fact that I am (soon no longer) at the mercy of someone feels drastically better. It was more expensive, okay, but I see investments in my well-being as extremely worthwhile. I can understand that at some point you no longer feel comfortable in a place, even though it might be someone else’s dream and they might not understand that. I don’t think you have to explain yourself whether it’s the lawnmower, the radio, or your way of feeling that makes you feel that way. What is clear is that you no longer feel comfortable there, and that probably won’t get better, whether anyone here understands that or not. This morning on Sunday, for example, our neighbor, the farmer, was very busy with tractors and equipment, which didn’t bother me at all, probably also because I like him as a person. I remember my former house, where I loved every knock and crack from the upper floor because it was my parents coming, and I liked that they felt comfortable up there. A few years later, a lady lived there who eventually made life hard for me and my neighbors, and every crackling made my pulse race. Unfortunately, I was forced to sell the condominium to her... eventually, I sold the whole house, my former house; I would do it the same way again. For the future, I would include as few fixed parameters as possible in the search and simply look at "everything." Your satisfaction will not come solely from the size of the plot or controlled residential ventilation, whether old or new, and maybe it will even be a great condominium that brings you similar comfort as a house. Once you have visited a possibly suitable property, the right ideas will also come to you so that you can design it in a way that makes you feel comfortable. Buying a house/apartment is sometimes like looking for a partner: You have a clear goal in mind, know all the necessary features of the desired “object” (the other side does too, unfortunately!), and in the end, it turns out completely different than you thought/hoped, and you realize it’s good that it came differently like that. I would recommend opening your search scope very wide, including size, age, distance, etc., and then something will be found. If someone had predicted my past 10 years like this, I would have rolled on the floor laughing and branded the fortune teller as a complete idiot.
 

Ysop***

2021-11-28 18:30:56
  • #4
It is best if you prioritize what is important to you. Not everything will probably be affordable, so make a list with must-have and nice-to-have criteria.

Climate control can also be installed afterwards, controlled residential ventilation is usually decentralized in existing buildings, I would say, so there is already a difference here compared to new construction. This probably goes hand in hand with facade insulation --> renewal of the facade.

That means some wishes bring follow-up measures and thus follow-up costs.
 

Sir_Batman

2021-11-29 15:59:19
  • #5


Are you including the purchase price? Then I might agree. At least so far, the pure major renovation is significantly cheaper for me than a new build. I basically renew everything. If I were to compare purchase price and land value (undeveloped), I would never get such a house in a current location so cheaply.

What is difficult are the restrictions due to existing conditions: ceiling height prevents underfloor heating, wooden beam ceiling limits soundproofing, chimney, etc.
 

aero2016

2021-11-29 19:52:52
  • #6
which trade is cheaper in existing buildings than in new construction?
 

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