Men, this kind of argumentation, I have been hearing it for too long, too often, it seriously also makes me angry. It is highly moralistic, highly principled and therefore full of double standards and hypocrisy. An adult usually decides economically and rationally in the market, of course sentimental components like image or something mix in, but do not override the rational. So if we really want to do something for the climate and health, to stay in the car sector: then comply with NOx limits or ban it. Then instead of unrealistically determined laboratory consumptions, whether with or without software cheating, a limit of 50-90-120. Then diesel is taxed like gasoline and farmers, freight forwarders, and shipping are given colored cheap diesel. But only them, since they have no alternative. A ship or tractor only works this way. For now. Then you make the market so that it goes in the right direction, and if someone still wants a Cayenne Turbo diesel, okay, the few Cayennes the world can handle. Better this than these scrappage programs, through which hundreds of thousands of cars are exported to Upper Volta etc., where they keep polluting merrily instead of doing their service here under TÜV supervision, because the new car product is also not CO2 neutral. And in the construction sector... Here a target would also be reasonable, for example a new building without CO2 emissions gets no property transfer tax, a new building with such and such g per sqm gets xy etc. Or you continue with KFW subsidies. However, I would never ban building in the classical way without much insulation and so on. Because even a cheap house must be possible. Why nowadays can you no longer build an apartment building without subsidies, where the rent ends up at 7-8 per sqm? Also where land is cheap not. Because building is made so expensive by the KFW energy saving ordinance mania. Promote the special, but let the normal run, and trust the citizen that he is an adult. And seriously, you new build eco people with Hornbach card and controlled residential ventilation, have you saved Germany and made the CO2 targets achievable? Or? No, we tear them down despite the energy saving ordinance, because traffic and energy industry don’t cooperate. We in the north produce, for example, masses of electricity for you in the south, but you get none of it because there are no power lines. Ok... we just give it away to Copenhagen, there are lines. No, no, it is always suspicious when it is approached in a highly moralistic way instead of looking at how things are and what follows from the current state. Karsten