Schnuckline builds a cozy little house (floor plan)

  • Erstellt am 2017-04-03 00:42:34

Schnuckline

2017-04-03 16:55:02
  • #1
The architect is already working with Bien-Zenker, but she is not employed there, rather she is from an architectural firm. That's what I meant. I have no idea how this works. This is my first time building. I assume they give her the contract and then she comes. Our meeting also took place in the model house.

The city says that. It should not be forgotten that roof overhangs, paths, parking spaces, and terraces also count toward the floor area ratio. At least in our case. I don't know exactly if this is regulated differently depending on the region. I know the development plan by heart. We are even slightly over the floor area ratio and have applied for an exemption.
 

RobsonMKK

2017-04-03 18:27:34
  • #2
But they only count proportionally and, as a rule, they are allowed to exceed the floor area ratio by 50%. I would discuss this again in detail with the architect.
 

toxicmolotof

2017-04-03 18:49:38
  • #3
You have every right in the world to be frustrated. And you are not an architect. Or do you perhaps want to transplant a kidney out of me? Or take over my risk assessment of a bank?

You really can't expect that to work.

You are comparing apples and oranges with the apartment now, or do you have 2 children's rooms, a large bathroom, and 32 sqm living room?

The standard floor plans are mostly at least proven, aren't they?
 

Nordlys

2017-04-03 20:06:07
  • #4
Since the architect cannot work miracles, as the floor area ratio is maxed out, nothing gets past the review of the specifications. The house simply has a certain area. And if you try to cram everything into 125 that is usually in 160 houses, it always ends up being a dollhouse somewhere. Serious question, what is a must, what is nice to have. Karsten
 

ypg

2017-04-03 20:21:23
  • #5




That’s why you write down the space requirements for the architect, like “a walk-in closet would be nice,” “two children’s rooms of equal size,” “separated kitchen,” hobby room, privacy screen for the terrace, etc. And then you let the architect do their job. Such faux pas won’t happen to them, like the toilet being directly visible from the bathroom entrance by everyone in the hallway. The professional has studied and can address all needs, whether it’s an elderly couple or a family of four. Later on, you can address wall shifts.

This thread reads like a madhouse! From your loving planning, a house disaster emerges. Specifically because you handle the details lovingly but have no clue. This is not meant to sound harsh, but after countless posts about various planning mistakes, you should take the advice and let the architect plan if you’re paying them anyway. Hands off the planning if life experience is missing. Some people were amused by your questions about your privacy screen, but honestly: you’re putting the cart before the horse and naively think you are the only builder with demands on living. A fence always comes after the construction — at least it should be prioritized that way. Errors in the house design can’t be remodeled as quickly as a fence, which you can adjust again in the night and wind.

- On 412 sqm, a house with almost 103 sqm fits — roof overhangs are included if they exceed 50 cm. The terrace is included in the 103 sqm, but then you just plan the 8 sqm; later you can expand. You can exceed this by 5-10% if the architect gives a good explanation and the building authorities are in a good mood. Another 50% is usually allowed in the second floor area number for ancillary facilities, paths, and parking spaces. However, this may be an exception in your case that it doesn’t apply.

- If you only have about 65 sqm available for an area, you must do without (most) highlights and nice-to-haves that devour square meters: kitchen island, T in the bathroom, walk-in closet, walk-in shower. There’s hardly any discussion unless you move living spaces into the attic or basement. Squeezing in will not make you happy midterm, and the house will feel too tight. Furnishings should be placed almost exclusively against the walls so you gain free space that would otherwise be cut up. E.g., in the kitchen you could dance without an island, with an island not. E.g., bathroom: slalom paths instead of free space in the bathroom.

- Topic doors: A door opens into the room, meaning: you enter the room and don’t step against a wall. You don’t want to immediately spin around your own axis in the room when you want to use or walk through it. Where there is a door, you don’t plan a work or stay area (kitchen). A door can hide a little chaos (storage room, cloakroom).

Kitchen: To stand opposite each other while chopping, you don’t need 120 cm distance; 90… even 80 will do if necessary.

Bathroom: In principle, it doesn’t matter if there is one or two washbasins, the width counts. For a four-person household, though, an alternative should be offered; in this regard, it’s worth considering turning the urinal into a shower. Your boyfriend should not be so selfish.
Toilet directly in front of the door... sorry, you can take a few more steps. How should that work when there are four of you? Do you want to always visit each other on the throne or bang the door against your forehead during the session? A privacy wall serves exactly to shield the view from the entrance.

Bedroom/walk-in closet: What you plan with masking tape, do the same with the 45-50 cm on the sides of the bed. But please so that you have a wall in front of you. The same applies to the walk-in closet. Sit on the virtual bed (chair in front of a wall) and put your arms on your knees... or pretend to have surgery on your foot or knee.

My suggestion in brief:

Swap children’s room 1 with the bedroom/walk-in closet and/or plan the bedroom with walk-in closet in the basement so that the office or hobby room is upstairs. It’s better anyway if both children’s rooms face west.

Take half of the storage space in the hallway for the bathroom and build a shower in the niche. The remaining niche gets two doors and you already have a built-in closet for the cloakroom: no one wants to see their winter jackets on a stand in summer. And no one wants to clutter up with small furniture: eventually, the fourth shoe cabinet will have been purchased.

Move the living room door, possibly place the sofa on the central wall, TV on the south wall.
 

Schnuckline

2017-04-03 21:58:00
  • #6
You are very sweet, thank you for your support. I’m already looking forward to showing you the result we’ve created together someday.

For now, I’ve just sent my outpouring to the architect. Let’s see what she changes. Maybe it will somehow click for me then. I’m somehow not sure what’s better:
- Not building at all
- Building something that isn’t really liked
- Squeezing something in that will probably sooner or later no longer be liked either

wow, so detailed
I’ll show the drafts I received from the architect here. Maybe you can tell me what you think of them. The plans made me unhappy and partly confused because the furniture is drawn so tiny that it has nothing to do with reality anymore.
We have now decided that we definitely want a guest bathroom (since the hobby room also serves as a guest room) in the basement. I believe that means a shower on the ground floor is no longer necessary, or what do you think?
I always get totally confused when you talk about other people being in the bathroom while someone is sitting on the toilet. Since childhood, I learned that when you enter the bathroom, you lock the door and no one else comes in under any circumstances.
I’ll probably experiment a lot more with the masking tape... I think it’s really good.

And thanks so much for your suggestions. I definitely don’t want to sound ungrateful, but I can’t really imagine it. Swapping the children’s room and the bedroom doesn’t really gain any space and moving the hobby room to the attic or the bedroom to the basement somehow makes things worse. It would be weird if sweetheart is loudly poker-playing with friends in the hobby room while the kids sleep in the neighboring rooms.
That’s why I’m creating the hobby room in the basement first, so people can let loose there without disturbing the others on the living floors.

I think I’m so stuck that your (really really great) tips aren’t working right now. I have to talk to the architect and then plan further.

Anyway, I’ll attach the architect’s plans.

 

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