Realistic costs for a single-family house?

  • Erstellt am 2016-08-03 14:07:59

86bibo

2016-08-26 13:41:23
  • #1
Regarding the actual question: Under €300k it becomes difficult even with the manageable living space, because of the basement and integrated garage. The costs are simple. Since you want an office and bathroom there, you need a higher ceiling height and the supply lines (water, electricity, heating) on that floor. Whether there are only 2 rooms or 4 rooms equipped with a radiator then doesn’t make much difference in price anymore.

Building on sloping plots always costs more for the exterior landscaping, but often also for the "Hauserdarbeiten". You are of course right that less excavation is needed for the basement, but this only affects the landfill fees and transport. The rest of the work is usually more labor-intensive because working on a slope is more complicated, sewer work is more expensive (more inspection shafts, greater height differences), etc. In addition, the house often needs to be secured against the slope if it is not sufficiently deep in the ground in the lower area. Here one easily miscalculates if average values are used.
 

Peanuts74

2016-08-26 13:44:21
  • #2



??? Actually, porcelain stoneware is hardly breakable at all.
 

Bauexperte

2016-08-26 23:11:20
  • #3

No, you can't ... OT: I will never understand why "man" is written/spoken when it actually means oneself ...?!

It is a merchant's rule valid since the beginning of time: throw away the cheapest + the most expensive offer and deal with the remaining selection. That means nothing else than sorting out "junk" and "luxury."

If a potential builder only obtains *2* offers, of course, he has drawn the short straw. Being result-oriented always means having 5 offers available.

Rhenish greetings
 

Bauexperte

2016-08-26 23:17:16
  • #4
Nevertheless, the entire basement _must_ be insulated: the walls enclosing the garage – even the garage itself; depending on the KfW standard – just like the other basement rooms. Or do you want to look at the insulation in every room? In my estimates, architectural/structural engineering costs are always included. Do you think so? What about, for example, exposed masonry? Wouldn’t that need to be insulated/plastered/faced similar to above-ground masonry? Rhenish regards
 

MarcWen

2016-08-26 23:44:05
  • #5


You know perfectly well that the statement adds no value. It doesn't help either if you come around with old merchant rules. You can try as hard as you want, but you won’t get any reasonable added value from it; rather, you will only make things worse because you insist on sticking to old customs.

Create a proper specification of services and choose your supposed partners carefully. And we all know, old rules or additional security always cost money and who ultimately pays for it is usually beyond question.

And between us, I grew up in trade. If anything really counts there, it is the principle that trade is change. In other words, talk to others: those who don’t adapt will be adapted, and you want to push your old wisdom on us?
 

Bauexperte

2016-08-27 00:15:01
  • #6
Good evening Marcus,


Do I know that or are you just assuming it? So far, I’m doing pretty well in my life – by the way, in all areas of life – with it.


We are definitely on completely different paths here. You are – in my humble opinion – afraid of losing something. I, on the other hand, am convinced that I can only win. Because – what can I lose that I never owned before?

Maybe we should bring up this topic at the next meeting?


With that, you underline – of course in other words – nothing other than what I wrote in my last post.


"Between us" – I’m afraid we’re going pretty off-topic – one doesn’t exclude the other; they even depend on each other. What you exclude/ignore here is that everyone still remains true to their principles. If everyone was already an egoist before, he will remain one in the course of time (greetings from Hofmannsthal); if he was a proper merchant, he will always make his cut.

Best regards from the Rhineland
 

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