Plots in Cologne only through developers?

Why?

When I look at developer areas, the same houses are usually located right next to each other. I am thinking of projects like Freiraum Junkersdorf by WVM Immobilien or here opposite me in Lövenich the Ronnegärten. Parts of the Sürther Feld also look that uniform.

How do you come to this statement ...?

I had a look at the Ronnegärten back then and, in conversation with the developer, learned about the high costs. I had discussed this with Artos and got the impression that one could be significantly cheaper with such a general contractor. We also talked to other interested parties who had informed themselves in several places and the consensus was always that a developer is ok if you have as few or no special requests as possible, but that for a certain individuality at an acceptable price, building a house on your own with an architect or via a general contractor is usually the way to go.... personally, I would tend towards the general contractor....

The question never really seriously arose, as I have yet to come across a developer who enables me to build the individual house that is desired.

I had also been interested in a condominium in Müngersdorf a few years ago. There, sun protection blinds not included in the offer were supposed to cost about 50% more than if I had commissioned the purchase and installation from a specialist company (actually a pharmacy).....

Good morning,

When I look at developer areas, the exact same houses usually stand side by side.

That is often the case, correct.

The goal of most developers is to plan the new development areas/larger plots to be marketed as quickly as possible and then sell them. In this business model, there is little to no room to change once-created floor plans beyond shifting a wall.

I talked about this with Artos and got the impression that you can get significantly cheaper with such a general contractor.

Then you should also know that this provider only calculates the structural engineering after the building permit without conditions has been submitted, giving you a lot of leeway to plan an individual design? By the way, this provider is not alone in doing so; many reputable providers proceed similarly or in the same way.

The question never really came up seriously, since I have not encountered any developer who makes individual house construction possible as desired.

In the developer business – land + house from a single source – you will encounter this again and again. If you choose the land yourself and are thus free to select the provider, the situation is different, as you also described earlier.

I was also interested in a condominium in Müngersdorf a few years ago. There, sun protection blinds not included in the offer were supposed to cost about 50% more than if I had commissioned the purchase and installation from a specialist company (actually a pharmacy) myself.....

I have accompanied several buyers when purchasing a condo; it is laborious and sometimes tedious, but mostly we were able to find a compromise. On the other hand, I remain honest – my support was not free either; therefore, it is questionable whether, in the end, a real saving beyond the comfort of being able to change the floor plan according to your own wishes and within the available possibilities is achieved.

If a developer offers many condos for sale, he does not operate differently than initially described for new developments. If deviations in equipment details are to be realized, they always cost a lot of money. This is because this equipment detail is not included in the basic structure of the offer. Often it must be purchased at great expense because there are no framework agreements. It is also often the case that the favorable purchase prices are renegotiated on the backs of the subcontractors.

By the way, you could also have commissioned a sun protection blind subsequently – i.e., after completion of the condo?

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By the way, you could also have commissioned a sun protection roller blind afterwards – that is, after completion of the condominium?

Of course.

But my goal was to have an automated roller shutter control with a sun sensor, integration into a bus system to be commissioned separately as well, etc. From my point of view, this makes sense, especially – but not only – for warranty reasons, to have everything from one source. It went further than that. We didn’t like the standard lighting and wanted something of higher quality. I don’t think that needs to be elaborated further. I’m sure that I am the classic customer for a general contractor or architect on my own – although my tendency is rather towards the general contractor package....

Then you should also know that this provider only has the structural engineering calculated after submitting the building permit free of conditions and that you thus have plenty of room to plan an individual design? By the way, this provider is not alone in this, many reputable providers proceed this way or similarly.

I had only talked with the provider about additional cost positions in general based on some examples when I ran into them in connection with a plot with a house ready for demolition in Weiden, where they actually wanted to build but now no longer do, since the landowner sold it elsewhere.

BTW:
The city of Cologne remains silent on my inquiry as to whether it is indeed true that they only sell to developers now and whether registration as a land-seeker there even still has any benefit.

Do they actually have any other areas in planning besides Rondorf-Northwest (God alone knows when that will come)? I can find nothing, and also on the land use plan this is basically, apart from the right-Rhine south, the only area where potential building land for residential purposes is visible....

If I could turn back time, I would buy one of the plots that were still available 1.5 years ago in Widdersdorf, which we had excluded for ourselves.

If I could turn back time, I would buy one of the plots that were still available in Widdersdorf 1.5 years ago, but which we had ruled out for ourselves.

If money is no object, I might as well knock on Mrs. Amand's door Rheinische greetings

When I look at developer areas, the same houses are usually standing side by side one to one. I am thinking of projects like Freiraum Junkersdorf by WVM Immobilien or here opposite me in Lövenich the Ronnegärten.

I just googled what kind of projects these were. Now I also know why we weren't more familiar with them: The house prices range – depending on the house type – from 4,557.00 euros to 4,803.00 euros per square meter of living space (Freiraum Junkersdorf, homepage from 27.01.2014). Respect, even if the land was already included in that.

I just googled what kind of projects these were. Now I also know why we didn’t know them better: The house prices range – depending on the house type – from 4,557.00 euros to 4,803.00 euros per square meter of living space (Freiraum Junkersdorf, homepage from 27.01.2014). Respect, even if the land was already included.

And to live in such a uniform house in the (not so great) south of Junkersdorf for that kind of money? Rather not....

But from the developer’s side, one probably won’t find anything better in a good location in the future either.... it’s just that the whole topic started too late somewhere and the train has now left.....