Plastering work Q2 - Painting work afterwards?

As a plasterer, he has to say something like that. So with the neighbor, the painter offered both options, and painter's fleece was at least more expensive in the offer. Makes sense, because at least you have to putty and sand once in any case. The actual wallpapering is probably easier and faster than puttying and sanding three more times. The neighbor then chose puttying and sanding and is also satisfied. But I think the painter bit his own butt. He was definitely busy there for three weeks. Was also alone and not there every day, but he really needed many trips. I am currently having rough sanding, puttying, and wallpapering with painter's fleece done. However, only on the ground floor. Costs 4,000 EUR plus material (provided by me). I still have to paint myself.

So I am currently still waiting for the plasterer's offer but wanted to get a feeling for how something like this is priced.

We have an offer regarding wallpapering with painter's fleece from the painter for 1,700€ including material etc. (all complete). We would take over the sanding work on the ceiling ourselves, as well as the priming, so that the painter only has to apply the painter's fleece. We would also do the application of dispersion paint on the painter's fleece ourselves (2 buckets at 100€ each).

As said, the plasterer recommended only puttying, sanding, and spraying paint without doing anything with painter's fleece. He said you don't need that anymore then. I am curious what this variant will cost but think that this will be the best and easiest option. Possibly even cheaper than having the painter apply ONLY painter's fleece?

ask the painter,
he will list the advantages of fleece for you.
When "selling," you don't have to mention the disadvantages; with 5 advantages, the customer thinks there are no more disadvantages.
We have ceilings and walls with fleece and different colors on them (applied by the painter).

Advantages of fleece:

- smooth surface
- possibly fewer cracks (but we have 2 concrete ceilings and no wooden construction in the building, so we have relatively good conditions here)

Any other great advantages compared to complete skim coating with paint?

No, you basically already said it. The end result will look the same. But only fleece helps against cracks (if at all) and that is practically always present at the transition between concrete ceilings and non-concrete walls.
Besides, with the painter's offer, you of course took on the more elaborate steps yourself. Sanding a concrete ceiling is something different than sanding gypsum plaster.
You also have to putty there.
So yes, just wait for the offer from the plasterer. I would ask the painter exactly how much at least one puttying and sanding would cost with him (as preparation for wallpapering). But the wallpapering for 1700 doesn’t bode well (in my opinion it’s rather the simpler part) – although with materials it’s different again...

With us, there are several colored walls (e.g. aubergine and green), also a poster is stuck on, which I wouldn’t have wanted directly on the plaster. We have a solid house, there are always cracks in the gypsum plaster.

Oh, and ask the painter what grammage of the painter's fleece he intends to use for the offer. If it's something like 40g/m² tissue paper, you might as well leave it out. I would say at least 120g/m².

No, you basically already said it. The end result will look the same. But the only thing that helps against cracks is fleece (if at all), and you actually always have that at the transition between concrete ceiling and non-concrete walls.
On top of that, with the painter’s offer, you of course took on the more complicated steps yourself. Grinding a concrete ceiling is something different than grinding gypsum plaster.
You also have to putty there.
So yes, wait for the offer from the plasterer. I would specifically ask the painter what it would cost at least once to putty and sand with him (as preparation for wallpapering). But the wallpapering for 1700 doesn’t bode well (in my opinion it’s rather the easier part) – although with materials it’s a different story...

Alright, then I’ll wait for the offer from the plasterer. But I don’t really think it’s worth it to me to have the painter’s fleece EXTRA... I can really, or rather want to, save the 2,000€. I’ve also already seen from the neighbor that there are cracks despite painter’s fleece. The real question is whether the price-performance ratio is really worth it here, if the appearance is identical, if not even better with the puttying.

You’re right about that... Honestly, I also don’t feel like sanding the ceiling, so I would prefer the plasterer’s option!

We have several colored walls (e.g., aubergine and green), also a poster is stuck on, which I wouldn’t have wanted directly on the plaster.
We have a solid house, there are always cracks in the gypsum plaster.

Of course, we are painting everything with roll plaster and will then apply the colors onto the roll plaster (decorative quartz), so not directly onto the gypsum plaster.

Oh, and ask the painter what weight of painter’s fleece he plans to use with the offer. If it’s one of those 40g/m² tissue papers, you can just leave it out. At least 120g/m² I would say.

I’ll ask, if painter’s fleece really is still an option. But it sounded like he’s going to use decent material.