Q3 putty painted vs. wallpaper in terms of sensitivity

2024-10-30 20:09:48

Basically, we decided on walls with Q3 plaster

What kind of plaster? Gypsum? Cement? Lime? ...

1. Is painted Q3 plaster really that sensitive, and is it really that hard to repair if a wax crayon marks it or if a dent appears?

Gypsum plaster is indeed super soft and every bump causes dents. Lime cement is really hard and generally causes no problems. Wax crayons leave color on any wall but no dents. "Just" plastering is the easiest way to fix small dents. Filling, sanding, sanding, sanding, and repainting.

2. If you repair it, is it really that noticeable?

No, at most you see it by a slightly different color.

3. Are wallpapers really that more durable?

Which wallpapers? Painter's fleece = no. Thick non-woven wallpaper = yes. There are many types of wallpapers in between.

4. If we talk about wallpaper as a more robust alternative, which wallpaper should you use? Fleece? Woodchip?

Better talk about treating the house with care. Even with three kids and a dog, our gypsum walls did not get damaged. Currently I have partly gypsum and partly lime cement. And still no serious dents. A house is an object for use. It will always get some dents. Do what you find visually appealing (I think wallpapers are awful and had the last ones on the walls over 30 years ago). Painter's fleece is always a good choice. It results in a nice smooth wall like plaster, offers slight protection, and can be removed easily later. Alternatively, you can also apply, for example, a textured roll plaster. Nice appearance and small dents are easy to repair.

2024-10-30 21:06:10

What kind of plaster? Gypsum? Cement? Lime? ...

Gypsum plaster is actually super soft and every knock leaves dents. Lime-cement is really hard and usually doesn't cause any problems.
Crayon puts color on any wall, but doesn't cause dents. "Just" plastering is the easiest way to fix small dents. Fill, sand, sand, sand and repaint.

No, you can hardly see it except for a slightly different color.

Which wallpapers? Painter’s fleece = no. Thick fleece wallpaper = yes.
In between, there are various other types of wallpaper.

Better talk about taking good care of the house. Even with three children and a dog, our gypsum walls haven't been damaged. Currently, I have partly gypsum and partly lime-cement. And still no serious dents.

A house is an object for everyday use. It will always get some dents. Do what you find visually appealing (I think wallpapers are awful and had the last ones on my walls over 30 years ago). Painter’s fleece is always a good choice. It results in a beautifully smooth wall like plaster, offers slight protection, and can be easily removed later without problems.
Alternatively, you can apply a textured plaster, for example. Nice look and small dents are easy to repair.

It is not settled yet, but if anything, it will probably be lime-cement plaster.
I have had wallpaper all my life and would like a smooth wall without wallpaper, preferably without fleece wallpaper as well. It doesn't have to be 100% perfect on the wall; I can tolerate normal signs of wear.
A statement like: "Yes, it’s sensitive, but I would still choose it again every time" already helps me tremendously.

2024-10-30 21:50:28

It is not yet decided, but if so, probably lime cement plaster.

If it's going to be such a hard plaster, then I would actually not consider wallpaper etc. at all. But please note. Q3 lime cement plaster is not achieved as easily as with gypsum plaster. There is no such thing as "smoothed" with it. You only achieve Q3 through a second work step, e.g. filling with lime finish. When awarding the contract, just make sure that everything is described correctly. Gypsum plaster is much finer than the coarse lime cement plaster.

2024-10-30 22:18:19

Have you ever repaired scratches? Can you see the edges and can you get the color tone reasonably right when repainting or does the spot become blotchy?

You can't see anything at all if you peel it off sharply. Just go over it once with the original color. It only becomes blotchy if you use a different color.

2024-10-31 01:47:21

And now I come and confuse you again. I recommend heavy painter's fleece (minimum 130g/m²) and painting over it. On the one hand, it is more robust than gypsum plaster, on the other hand much smoother than lime-cement plaster. It can also be easily painted by yourself. You scrape your elbows on lime-cement plaster, I wouldn't feel like doing that.

2024-10-31 05:33:36

And now I come and confuse you all again. I recommend heavy painter's fleece (minimum 130g/m²) and painting over it. On the one hand, it is more durable than gypsum plaster; on the other hand, much smoother than lime-cement plaster. It is also very easy to paint yourself. You bruise your elbows on lime-cement plaster; I wouldn’t be up for that.

I support that. That’s how we have it now in the house. In the previous apartment, we had smooth gypsum plaster. We even glued the fleece ourselves at the time. The walls still have to be plastered fairly smoothly beforehand – then you get a great result that is definitely more resistant than gypsum plaster alone.

Stains from dogs: It will take about 18 months in our case to see whether that’s a problem. Stains from children can be washed out and shouldn’t have to be constantly touched up.

Stains in our unfortunately rather narrow stairwells are mostly caused by ourselves when carrying boxes. Instead of dabbing, I use a brush and a little(!) paint, painting irregularly away from the stain, as if spreading too little butter on bread. That was a tip from the painter, very good, no patchy effect, looks like new.

There are paints that have a long maintenance period because their change is very slow and they are protected from greying out. After years, the same color will still have a slightly different shade.

In my opinion, after 15-20 years, it should be repainted once during a renovation. Inevitable little things will fade away until then; living is always a form of wearing down.

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