Kitchen offers without price indications - is this common?

2022-06-13 20:00:51

What does secrecy mean? If the devices are so important to you: inform yourself beforehand, write down the device name and go to a studio that offers the manufacturer. The consultant will be glad if you have taken the work off his hands.

It's not just about the devices. Sometimes I had to ask again which price group and which fronts they are at all. What is planned inside. Drawers? Shelves? What cabinet height etc etc

2022-06-13 20:11:13

It’s not just about the appliances. Sometimes I had to drill down on which price group and which fronts these actually are. What is planned for the interior. Drawers? Shelves? Which carcass height, etc. etc.

I think that simply satisfies the general XXL customer. White and matte. Done. I already knew beforehand that Smartglas is PG4 and Resopal is PG3. I knew what grids are and how many drawers and pull-outs I want in which cabinet. I would also recommend anyone who has the opportunity to read up on it. Salespeople talk a lot all day long and no one knows cooking habits better than oneself.

2022-06-13 20:49:32

... but with that, you were also one of the max. about 10% of kitchen customers who really informed themselves thoroughly beforehand.

To everyone else ... you wouldn’t believe how different kitchens can be planned even in so-called standard rooms. I’ve been doing this as a hobby for almost 16 years, and a lot in the implementation is really a matter of details that can quickly make a difference of several thousand euros ... design of the side panels, countertops, and the like.

I would find it very good if it could become established that, starting from the second consultation appointment, a fee of, let’s say, 200 to 400 euros is paid as a planning fee. This would be offset upon commissioning. This would exempt the real standard kitchens, which as a rule are actually finalized at the first planning appointment.

2022-06-13 20:49:56

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What if you had to pay each kitchen planner €240 for planning (or €90 for rough planning) upfront, which would then be credited? I don’t think that would be accepted by customers.

Why not? That’s exactly how it works with us. We have our kitchen planned by an interior designer (specialized in this). If we order the kitchen from her, the fee is credited. If not, we pay a previously agreed flat rate. I find that fair and transparent, and I prefer it a thousand times over the secretiveness described above.

2022-06-13 20:56:23

and no one knows cooking habits better than oneself.

Therefore, I also expect the inquiry. Ultimately, it’s also about the working height, for example who does what.

It’s not just about the appliances. Sometimes I had to drill down which price range and which fronts these actually are. What is planned for the interior. Drawers? Shelves? What corpus height etc etc

hmm, but I actually find that very unprofessional. However, I remember that we were also in such a, as mentioned above, XXL-specialty studio: I said something about white and high gloss and definitely the same grid, also no offset in height, and after half an hour I ask what the offset is for. yes, there’s no other way… We broke off there because our specifications had been planned exactly elsewhere beforehand. And there we explicitly went to the surfaces (Nolte), cabinets and sink in the showroom… Not the appliances, because nowadays and also back in 2013 simple ovens have at least 7 functions, which were enough for me. The previous year was also not that important to me. And I read about the group on the internet, so he could have told me something I wouldn’t have been able to grasp. Maybe one should basically just advise to pay attention to whether he works and communicates _with_ you or whether he goes solo.

2022-06-15 08:27:11

I will quote a part from another thread..

A kitchen comparison is, in my opinion, almost as impossible as the construction service description from different general contractors.

Since our electrician wanted the kitchen planning or installation planning already in March and we hadn’t bought a kitchen yet, we decided to hire an independent kitchen planner. With him we planned the kitchen exactly the way it fits us 100%. Due to our previous satisfaction with the appliances, we stayed with Siemens Studioline.

The plan is finished, the electrician has received the installation planning and I have sent this plan to 4 kitchen studios/sellers. The appliance descriptions are included as well.

Now one writes that he cannot offer a Quooker, so the kitchen costs 17,531,-

The other included all appliances and wants 17,300,-

And the other two have no contract with Siemens for the Studioline appliances and want about 15,500,- for the kitchen without oven and microwave.

Comparing is not possible again, because none of them gave me the exact front design names.. And I thought I was perfectly equipped for the kitchen comparison.

Why not? That’s exactly how it works for us. We let the planning of our kitchen be done by an (especially specialized) interior designer. If we order the kitchen from her, it is deducted. If not, we pay a previously agreed flat fee. I find that fair and transparent and I prefer it a thousand times more than the secrecy described above.

That’s how we did it too, only we did not order the kitchen there. For the planning, we paid a flat fee of €375. However, I saved myself visits of several hours in other kitchen studios after the first two appointments already cost me 5 hours of life but brought no added value.

I would do it the same way again today, unless I get an explicit recommendation that someone works particularly dedicated and transparently.

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