Floor plan single-family saddle roof house with basement, approx. 200 sqm

Sorry, but I have to say this: this is the point where you stop tinkering with the initial concept and throw the whole thing in the bin. This long way to the kitchen is nonsense, the stairs don't fit with the roof, the hallway is as dark as night, the living room doesn't open to the garden, the entire upper floor is questionable anyway - just don't be squeamish. Tear it apart and start over.

The "attic" has a large knee wall in the plan.

I do not see a knee wall here that extends beyond the parapet height. I do not see the wishful thinking of a development reserve even remotely verified here, and certainly not proven simply by creating standing height at the stair exit.

Two floors are being discussed here, although 4 floors are planned.

If the basement is still current, I see not only the knee wall but also the stairs to the attic as superfluous. Then I would insert a treehouse level in the children's rooms, design the bedroom as open to the rafters, and create a crawl space above the dressing room and possibly the bathroom, done.

Sorry, but I have to say this: this is the point where you stop tinkering with the initial concept and throw the whole thing in the trash. [...] — just don’t be squeamish. Tear it apart and start over.

An amateur plan remains an amateur plan, even if you involve a draftsman (and he incorporates hints from a structural engineer). But the Pyrrhic victory of pushing this amateur plan through against all reason in the world (and even if the end is "reaches the courtyard with great difficulty, the child was dead in his arms") is the house builder’s heartfelt honor—almost no herb can combat that. Especially not if you have found a house as a template that was successfully built around the desired staircase...

that is likely the model house in Poing by Griffner Haus. They flipped the image.

that is probably the model house in Poing by Griffner Haus. They have mirrored the picture.

You are right! I kept wondering why the photo of the exterior looked so familiar to me. However, the interior layout is completely different, starting with the staircase.

Inside, however, it is arranged completely differently, starting already with the staircase.

... and it doesn’t end with the uninstalled "expansion reserve" attic. Too bad – I had hoped they had chosen a template at least successfully proven regarding the apparently "load-bearing" staircase here. Incidentally, I have already, I believe in the predecessor thread started by the TE’s husband, never ever concluded from the floor plans that it was a pitched roof house.

I think it was a film with Barbra Streisand where a customer, a Merkel-type (or rather Thatcher ...? – it was a long time ago), shows a picture of Lady Di to the hairdresser saying "this is how I want to look." I always think of that when someone chooses precisely the most challenging basis for their goal :)

@ all dreamers: please start fewer popcorn threads – I and many other advisors here would much rather be able to help with successful dream implementations; unfortunately, a manageable gap between wish and possibility is a non-negligible prerequisite for success. Alternatively, might consider setting up a "Sim House of the Month" section, in which one can freely fantasize without the constraints of silly gravity and the mundane Mammon. But either way: I would be very happy about less mixing of "just one more little push, then it will work" and "hopeless, but funny" threads!

Hello everyone,

we have adjusted the upper floor again and now have 2 options: with and without a storage room. There should be enough light and space in the hallway. What do you think, would you prefer a storage room? We would use the storage room for vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, etc.

Without storage room and a low board:



With storage room:


Thank you very much.