Floor plan single-family saddle roof house with basement, approx. 200 sqm

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Climbee

2022-12-08 15:31:49
  • #1
The first thing I notice is that the narrow corridor is "softened" by the fact that the passage to the kitchen is open. That makes a huge difference!

Otherwise, I don’t understand the second staircase and I don’t like the coat closet solution here either. The recess of the guest WC softens the narrow corridor once again and gives the guest (if you assign the second, incomprehensible staircase to the guest/work area) a bit of privacy when going from the bed to the guest WC, which I find clearly better than your narrow guest WC.

You made the void space into the utility room. I’m a fan of the utility room on the upper floor, but then it should be directly accessible, i.e. with a door from the hallway.

Overall, though, I don’t particularly like the design and as ypg already said: typical production house of a general contractor, i.e. a floor plan that is supposed to fit many and is always built the same way with minor changes. Regardless of the terrain of the plot, the driveway, etc. It might fit, but it doesn’t have to. Personally, within your budget, I would always prefer an individual design.

And I have a feeling that this production house is offered with a flat or tent roof, not with a gable roof.
 

Myrna_Loy

2022-12-08 15:59:41
  • #2
I don't understand the second staircase that comes out at the top in the dressing room? But otherwise, I like the floor plan.
 

ypg

2022-12-08 16:12:37
  • #3


Regarding the architect's design:
inside
this is an open design. Living and living including stairs and kitchen are united. Everything flows into each other. For visual reasons or also due to thermal consequences, the basement stairs are separate. The wardrobe here serves as a sluice; I also find it too narrow here to be practical. Here I would have rotated the stairs so that you still have privacy on the sofa when others want to go upstairs, e.g. children with friends. Then you arrive upstairs with a panoramic view. The open space is not important to me now, especially since sound is carried upwards here. I also don’t understand the bedroom/dressing room arrangement here. That can be done better. Children's rooms have a nice size. All room sizes fit together harmoniously.
outside
The upper floor body is linear to the ground floor body. The entrance area has a separate flat roof, which underlines the cubature. The same applies to the living room bay window: what is missing in the lower right area of the plan is picked up again in the ground floor. Here too, I find the large balcony unnecessary or not sensible (arguments have been given), and what effect the roof ultimately has on the terrace, we do not know because of the missing orientation.
Regarding the entrance area again: it is open to the right of the plan and downwards. That means with a recognizable driveway and garage: there is a bright courtyard, not roofed, so that you find the entrance and do not have to search for it. A perfectly normal entrance when standing in the yard.

Your design:
- neutral closed design, hallway, cooking/dining, living room
- basement stairs visible from the sofa
- WC is clumsily extended without plan
- wardrobe is a dead end in your design (a place instead of a corridor would be better)
- utility room accessible from the toilet area
- children’s rooms are bloated
- upper floor spans clumsily without plan over the ground floor, as if concrete and optics are worth nothing. This causes the mentioned negative window shifts because they are not adapted. The house looks too wide in the front.
- there is very limited bedroom furnishing due to the dimensions
- missing bathtub
- toilet alignment, if one is petty.
- dressing room as a trapped room, bedroom as a passage room (I would also eliminate the second door in the bathroom in the "architect's design". It is not needed there, but it is in your design to avoid double strain on the bedroom) -> your upper floor situation is not only simply bad, but doubly bad.
- your house is wide in the front, the "architect's house" is narrow in the front.

These are the obvious things that catch my eye. I don’t have to and don’t want to discuss them because all points are somehow already mentioned and explained if you think about it and know something about design. If not, then one should avoid doing DIY planning anyway.
 

ypg

2022-12-08 16:17:20
  • #4
That is a basement staircase. The house has a basement. And since only basement windows can be seen at the ground floor, presumably not within the thermal envelope, so not living space.
 

ypg

2022-12-08 16:24:00
  • #5
Forgotten:
- hardly accessible entrance under an oversized roof (Carport). The entrance area is closed off to the front, to the side, and above at your place and is dark.
 

kati1337

2022-12-08 16:39:07
  • #6


We are currently building a design from such a "zeichenknecht" and are extremely satisfied with it. In our case, it was a very cost-effective alternative to a self-design. However, to be honest, we have had more luck than skill in some areas so far.

I can only agree with the general opinion: collect requirements and wishes in writing and give them to a professional. Whether "zeichenknecht" or "real" architect – both will probably be better than your DIY design. I agree with ypg, your floor plan is not so special/unusual that the architect wouldn't understand the dream. And if they do, then you haven’t listed all requirements correctly. The more detailed your list, the better the result. At least that’s our experience.

About the design itself:

- 2 children and a bathroom without a tub may need to be reconsidered
- the utility room on the upper floor is too small. I would already plan it so that a drying rack can still fit in there. Most people don’t really throw everything in the dryer (?), and in winter at subzero temperatures you certainly don’t want your fine cashmere jacket to freeze solid on the balcony. ;)
- the basement access has already been discussed enough
- I would also find the passage between dining room and living room too narrow. It feels very cramped.
- cloakroom and guest WC are very narrow rooms, which is neither visually appealing nor practical.

Edit: Forget my comments on the design – I saw too late that there was an update. ;)
EditEdit: Oh, there was no update after all, apparently it was only the floor plan used as a basis. Then I stick to my points. ;)
 

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