Floor plan of a 200 m² gable roof house on 780 m²

  • Erstellt am 2022-10-28 12:33:34

ypg

2022-10-28 20:45:22
  • #1
I certainly hope not. Because repetitions like “Groundhog Day” are not needed in a plan that is supposed to grow. A plan should actually show improvements each time. :eek: Those are banned once you have moved in anyway. I don’t think it needs to be pointed out here considering our current ecological situation. Heating an outdoor area is a triple offense. (one used reasonably is allowed ;) ) No, you will not get evening sun from the left side of the plan. Your garage is on the left side of the plan; the left side of the plan is NW. The sun sets there in June/July, meaning it is very low. Your living area including terrace will not get any sun. The corner and the large windows are where either the sun rises (summer) or is not visible at all in the morning (winter more like SE). The house is completely planned against light/sunlight. The roof overhang further isolates your window areas. It will be creepily dark. Even if you say you don’t like southern sun because it’s way too hot, you should find a good compromise. An overhang is appropriate for a south-facing terrace but not for this location. You should also find compensation through window placement, but I only see utility rooms in the important south and west areas as well as tiny loophole windows. It is no different than anywhere else. That can also be planned differently galantly. In a plan there is basically no _must_. If there is no knee wall on the garden side, the rooms at the top of the plan won’t work. Your 2-meter line would have to be around 25 degrees approximately at the lower walls of the bedroom and child’s room. There you have no standing space at all. By the street do you mean the knee wall height or actually the calcium silicate brick… outside? Overall, these are strange relationships between DN and calcium silicate brick… Yes…. Sorry, I also don’t see an architect. Even if I consider that it might have been signed off because of the architect’s copyrights and therefore some little errors or corners that nobody needs and that no one consciously plans (except a layman who has no sense of drawing and planning) might have occurred. And also, if you consider that you made something up upstairs without considering the roof slopes. For example, I don’t see any load-bearing walls at all that carry the ceiling around the staircase. Or where does the third gable rest? And if it is a staggered roof, then you would use your third gable for lighting as well?! So the lower (bottom) roof would have to be lower than the upper (top) roof so that important southwest light comes into the house through gable windows?! This pushed-forward staircase, which is more of a nuisance, this odd corner of hallway/dining area… over 50 sqm garage, someone has no spatial sense at all nor have they ever heard of boundary construction… Two doors to the most frequently used room, the utility room,… I’ve said the rest already … Sorry, I only say this once a year: into the round file and hire a trained architect. A type house with small changes from the planner also works!
 

SoL

2022-10-28 20:46:08
  • #2
What would bother me:
- Pantry separate, not integrated into the kitchen
- Door to the pantry impractically placed, so that effectively only 60% of the usable area remains (door on the wall)
- Cloakroom space practically nonexistent
- You enter and stumble up the stairs after 1.5m. Put some cardboard directly behind your current entrance and think about whether that would be nice for you...
- ...
 

ypg

2022-10-28 21:00:20
  • #3

No, you could theoretically build a glass palace there.

And so?
It has to be said: we would like to avoid too many windows on the sides because there is a garage there.
Your statements "it is not possible" or "it has to be" are basically wrong. You are limiting yourself, giving options no chance, answering in a blanket way, and therefore you don't see the potentials at all because you immediately say: "not possible". So many things are possible if you survive yourself once, _why_ you exclude them.
The 2.5-story building does not take the sun away from you in the south, at least. In winter, yes.
And if a window faces a garage, at least it gives daylight, just like your north-facing windows.
And actually you don't like light anyway, so where is the argument there? Consequently, you would have to say: we plan all the big windows on the neighbor’s garage side so that we make sure that light, but no sun, comes in.
Do you understand what I mean?

Then probably the wrong house shape was chosen. Narrow plot, narrow house would be better, with enough distance to the neighbor.
I will go even further: wrong orientation of the rooms.
 

Kalimba

2022-10-28 21:46:47
  • #4

If we turn it towards the evening sun, we sit 4 meters away from the neighbor’s terrace. I don’t really want that.

Living room to the front towards the street is probably not an alternative, right?

Yes, if I wanted every passerby to watch me while living.

That’s a bit of hairsplitting, replace it with “I don’t think it’s good.”

Staircase, yes, that doesn’t work like this. The size of the garage is intentional; it barely fits two cars parked in tandem. Otherwise, boundary development is not a problem, we stay below the 18 meters.

True, that really doesn’t work. It resulted like this at my PC because the upper floor also isn’t any good.

The pantry door is simply placed there so that it has one. The access is currently not from the kitchen so that no cabinet space is lost there.

If I remove the door to the technical room, over two meters of closet remain at 1.5 meters depth. Is that so little for a few jackets?
 

ypg

2022-10-28 22:10:36
  • #5

That’s not hair-splitting, and I also explained it.

Yes, why not? Privacy can be provided by hedges or other planting, there are windows where you can’t just look in like that, and the cheapest way is simply to build further away from the property boundary. There are many means to an end that were not applied here at all. And…

… Who here believes they are so interesting that passersby stop?

We can’t say anything about that because the site plan or the quite important neighboring development is not available here. You explain a lot, but not in a way that one can realistically imagine it. A plan showing the disruptive factors would be great.

But I already said it: maybe the approach and wording are completely wrong: instead of saying, "not to the left and not to the right," you first say, "it would be nice if or that…" how the architect implements that is up to him.
Honestly, after your initial post, I can’t tell if you want a sunny spot or not; you immediately come with negations. Without going back to check, I have in mind "south terrace currently too hot," but also "the plan is like this now because we have the evening sun." What I see is a covered northeast terrace….

That was clear to me…


… but that is not permitted -> HBO § 6 ABS.10

I have nothing more to say about this whole plan.
 

SoL

2022-10-28 22:14:07
  • #6
That’s not planning, just slamming a door there and putting a one-meter cabinet on each side. Sure, you can do that, but it can be done much more elegantly—that’s what architects are for. Regarding your solution: 1.5 meters depth sounds great. Now look at the cabinet section below the door on the plan. There’s a 60 cm cabinet, then 90 cm depth remains. You have to share this 90 cm with the 50 cm long (1 m / 2) cabinet door, because shortly after comes the unnecessary corner. So, between the cabinet door and the corner, I count a good 40 cm of space. In other words: I doubt you can stand comfortably in front of the cabinet when you want to open it. Then please list what else is just placed there before we invest more time...
 

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