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Which I, by the way, very much welcome. I can practically smell the specialists who then charge their vehicles daily at the branch to cook and watch TV in the evening, while those who really need to charge because they drive a lot get left out...

And in general. The public charging infrastructure is intended for people who cannot charge at home or need to charge on the go.

Maybe leave the ego pig in the cage every now and then. It's better for society.

It is probably due to the resulting loss of tax revenues.

I read somewhere an example scenario where you charge for free at work and then feed into the grid at home. Something about tax was the question.

Hello,

I read somewhere an example scenario where you charge for free at work and then feed the electricity into the grid at home afterwards. Something with taxes was the question.

Yes, I have also seen a discussion in that direction somewhere. To be honest, it looked to me like the typical German "Let's invent some absurd special case to prevent something new" discussion.

[*]Hardly any employer will provide _free_ charging options for a larger number of electric cars. Maybe 1-3 spots so they can present themselves as super green, but no more than that.
[*]Such behavior would simply be theft and accordingly already very problematic from a labor law perspective. I might as well take pencils and printer paper from the office and sell them.

No one will probably do that at a paid charging station, who charges their car for 40 cents/kWh and then feeds the electricity back in for 8 cents/kWh?

Somewhere, there will certainly be some species who carry it through, but that will be a very rare exception. An electric car can usually only deliver 3.6 kW. At most, you can feed back max. 40 kWh at home overnight. With the current feed-in tariff, that’s about 3 euros/night. Is it worth risking your job for that?!?

Normally, such experts are already held back by colleagues who also want to charge and, above all, simply ask how it can be that the electric car is empty again every day when he only commutes between the office and home.

Best regards,

Andreas

Well. For company vehicles with private use, it is actually cheaper for the employer if they are charged on-site instead of at the Supercharger for 50, 60 cents/kWh. Depending on the location, the prices paid are also not the same as those known from one’s own household. The medium-sized steel construction company does not pay 35 cents/kWh for its electricity...

Apart from that, I don’t think it’s a good idea to use your car battery for something like that, but everyone has to decide for themselves. As I said, I hardly believe that the manufacturers will still provide a warranty with excessive use. And with current (realistic) ranges of an ID.4 in winter of under 300km (not discharging below 20% and not charging over 80%, see VW battery care instructions), it would be annoying if the battery only has 70% capacity after a few years, but is not replaced under warranty because it was constantly used as a home storage...

For good reason, Tesla uses old car batteries as storage... and not new ones.

It will not be free because that alone is a "monetary benefit". Whoever wants to enter this tax hell, please.

Regarding the charging infrastructure: time is money - fast chargers and generally public charging points are usually more expensive than electricity from one's own home installation. The open infrastructure must be maintained and supported - and a little profit should also remain - otherwise no one will build it.

And as long as the state keeps its fingers out of it, I think everything is fine.

It won't be free because that alone is already a "monetary benefit." Whoever wants to enter this tax hell, please go ahead.

Regarding the charging infrastructure: Time is money – fast chargers and generally public charging points are usually more expensive than the electricity from your own home installation. The open infrastructure needs to be maintained and supported – and a little profit should also remain – otherwise no one will build it.

And as long as the state keeps its fingers out of it, I think everything is fine.

That's how it is.
The fear that someone could grab a crumb through the back door during bidirectional charging is typically German again. Simply ridiculous, and we're shooting ourselves in the foot once more.

The public charging infrastructure is actually okay for today's standards. We used it exclusively for a few months before our wallbox was operational. We just have to make sure to expand it according to new electric vehicle registrations.
I also find the prices okay, though somewhat high. But still cheaper than comparable fuel. The advantage is being back on the road quickly. At home, I charge almost for free, but it takes longer.