Assessment of Financing New Construction 425k € / Overall Financial Situation

  • Erstellt am 2021-06-13 17:51:57

Arango18

2021-06-13 17:51:57
  • #1
Hello everyone,

we are also tackling the topic of "building a house" and plan to start construction in spring 2022 after I finish my further training. The plot of land was already purchased several months ago and despite not entirely optimal circumstances like the Corona situation or the current price explosion for building materials, we are relatively determined to follow through with it. The financial situation has been checked and personally assessed by me as basically feasible; initial talks and offers from the bank for orientation have already taken place. However, since I am basically a rather thoughtful and security-oriented person, I would like to have the whole thing reviewed by you, as experienced people in this field, and hope for honest feedback. All information has been provided to the best of my knowledge and belief.

We look forward to your input, questions, and critiques!

Many thanks in advance,
MJ

General information about you:

    [*]Who are you? We have been living together as a couple for 8 years
    [*]How old are you? 28 years old
    [*]Are there children? No
    [*]Are children planned? Yes, 1-2
    [*]What do you do professionally? I have been working in the automotive supplier industry for 8 years, but will soon be working in the digital marketing industry. Ongoing further training at evening school to become a specialist and soon a business economist. Partner is an employee in the public sector. Both receive a 13th-month salary – vacation and Christmas gifts are intended to be paid from this, so I will not include this in the calculation.
    [*]Are you employed, self-employed, retired, housewife, househusband, etc...? I will soon be in an employment relationship with a probationary period, afterwards permanent. Partner is permanently employed.
    [*]How many hours do you work? Both 39 hours per week

Income and asset situation:

    [*]What income do you have (gross/net)? Both tax class I with €2,400 / €2,000 net. For me, a setback after changing industries as an entry-level salary with potential for increase; for my partner, only small increases due to experience levels or collective agreement adjustments are expected. For my girlfriend, it will be around €1,400 if she works part-time after parental leave.
    [*]How much child benefit do you receive? None yet.
    [*]Other transfer payments such as parental allowance, sickness benefit, etc...? None.
    [*]How much equity do you have? Paid plot of land including all development and incidental costs such as notary and court (according to the standard land value €57,500) + €20,000 in cash assets + approx. €3,000 as reserve/puffer for possible upcoming parental leave, which should not be touched.
    [*]How much equity do you want to invest in the house project? As much as possible, except emergency funds and reserves for parental leave. The equity is intended for furniture and kitchen and the construction costs must be financed. It is quite possible that we might receive some subsidies from the family side, but we do not know yet if and how much.

Expense situation:

I have compiled all current and ongoing costs after the start of construction in a detailed calculation. This has been continuously checked and has turned out to be relatively conservative, especially regarding values for, e.g., leisure time. These tend to be rather high.

The values are as follows:

Housing costs:

    [*]Current cold rent €500 / month
    [*]Current warm rent €570 / month
    [*]Electricity €65 / month
    [*]Gas €65 / month
    [*]Water, sewage, garbage fees, street cleaning included in warm rent
    [*]Telephone, internet, mobile phone €75 / month

Mobility costs:

    [*]Car leasing €235 / month
    [*]E-bike leasing €40 / month
    [*]Insurance €90 / month
    [*]Taxes €20 / month
    [*]Fuel €200 / month
    [*]MOT (TÜV) €5 / month

Insurance costs:

    [*]Liability insurance €7 / month
    [*]Risk life insurance none yet – will be about €22 / month
    [*]Pension insurance none
    [*]Disability insurance none yet – will be about €80 / month
    [*]Accident insurance none
    [*]Household insurance none yet – will be about €5 / month
    [*]Legal protection insurance €10 / month
    [*]Building insurance none yet – will be about €24 / month
    [*]Homeowners association: will be about €5 / month

Living expenses:

    [*]Groceries, drugstore, other daily needs €350
    [*]Pets (food, vet, medication, stable costs) none
    [*]Hobbies (club/pub, stadium visits, sports equipment, clothing, ...) €500
    [*]Club fees / team funds / ... €60
    [*]TV/Video/Subscriptions €50
    [*]Donations €5
    [*]Miscellaneous €30

Savings:

    [*]Maintenance reserves €150 / month
    [*]Currently about €1,000, sometimes €100 - €200 more, depending on the month
    [*]With house loan, we plan to save €250 / month in addition to maintenance reserves, a total of about €400 / month

Other expenses:

    [*]Alimony payments? None
    [*]Loans? None
    [*]Other? Cash that "just disappears," factored under “hobbies”
    [*]Was something forgotten? Please give feedback on this J

Income and expense totals:

The following values relate to the situation after moving into the house and with loan repayment. If I forgot anything above, it is definitely included in these totals.

    [*]Total income €4,400
    [*]Property expenses (installment, water, sewage, garbage fees, street cleaning, energy consumption, insurances, maintenance reserves) €1,730
    [*]Living expenses / leisure / saving €2,050
    [*]Total expenses thus €3,780
    [*]Balance + €620 - currently, when both work full-time. Savings are to be built up again at first. If a child comes, of course, it looks worse at first.


General information about the property:

    [*]How large is the plot? 675 sqm
    [*]What are the dimensions? 25*27
    [*]What is the standard land value? €80/sqm
    [*]New build, old building (year built), house type? New build, single-family house with basement (because of hillside plot), gable roof
    [*]Garages? Double garage in the basement
    [*]How large is the house? (living area / usable area) approx. 160 sqm / 220 sqm
    [*]What is the market value of the plot and house after completion? Estimate around €500,000.

Building or purchase costs:

    [*]Plot costs: €70,000 (paid)
    [*]Development costs: included in purchase price
    [*]Incidental acquisition costs (notary, court, property transfer tax, broker) without broker: €3,500 (paid)
    [*]Building or purchase costs (incl. architect, structural engineer): According to the architect’s calculation, including all ancillary costs approx. €430,000 - I am calculating a 10% price increase due to the current raw material situation. It could relax somewhat until then, but of course also worsen further. So we would be at around €475,000. According to the architect, a high standard is calculated.
    [*]Additional building costs (e.g. house connections, soil expert, construction power etc.) Civil engineering: included in the calculation price (see above)
    [*]Outdoor facilities/terrace, paths, garden design, fences, etc. €12,500 - to be done gradually from ongoing reserves/savings and with a lot of own work.
    [*]Financing costs (e.g. fees or commitment interests): Not yet finally clarified

Other costs:

    [*]Kitchen costs €12,000
    [*]Furniture, lamps, decorations €8,000

Cost overview:

    [*]Total costs €580,000
    [*]€20,000 cash, with which we would like to buy kitchen and furniture so that no separate loan needs to be taken. I want to keep financing as simple and clear as possible. Subsidies from BAFA and KFW I have roughly and flatly calculated at €15,000, which has not been determined yet; €30,000 own work (painting, laying floors, outdoor facilities, homeowner help with masonry, drywall, earthworks - some craftsmen like carpenter (father-in-law) or electrician (brother-in-law) in the family)
    [*]Financing amount approx. €425,000

Necessary credit details:

    [*]Loan amount €425,000
    [*]Type of loan (e.g., annuity loan, bullet loan, etc...) annuity loan
    [*]Interest rate (p.a. nominal, otherwise effective) offers are available with 1.05% mixed interest rate, but a tendency of increase until the start of construction – I would estimate about 1.3%?!
    [*]Fixed interest period 15 years
    [*]Remaining debt at the end of the fixed interest period about €275,000.
    [*]Fictive total term until full repayment: I hope to pay off in max. 33 years.
    [*]Initial repayment rate between 2-3%
    [*]Monthly installment target: approx. €1,200 for now. Or should we dare more?
    [*]Special repayments possible? Would be possible, but I would prefer investing in ETFs during the fixed interest period.
    [*]Repayment rate change possible? (Conditions such as number, repayment rate range indicate) – basically possible
 

HilfeHilfe

2021-06-13 18:24:49
  • #2
Hello you seriously want to finance 425k (or rather more) with 4000 net, changing employers and wanting children? Bold!!
 

Acof1978

2021-06-13 18:39:49
  • #3


I wouldn't exactly call it bold. If parents aren't there as a safety net, then it's financial suicide.

We are 38 and 42 but are done planning children and have 6,100 € net + 13th salary, child benefits, etc. With 50,000 € equity, I am a bit uneasy about financing the house for 494,000 €. It will work out very well, but it's still half a million euros.
 

driver55

2021-06-13 18:57:22
  • #4
I'll get straight to the point. :D

If you want to save something alongside the house-building project, you can forget about it. (At least with these numbers).

First, I would get accident insurance and readjust the construction costs.
(160 x €2500 + 60 x €2000)

I don't quite understand how you get from €475k to the €425k financing.
Why mixed interest rate? Then wouldn't you have a loan or do you mean bank + KfW?

Without reliable numbers (architects always estimate so well), I would first hit the brakes.

Btw: And why should the market value only be €500k when you are well over €500k for "purchase/acquisition"?
 

Tassimat

2021-06-13 19:59:30
  • #5
Hello, welcome to the forum, welcome to the lion's den.

Let's take a look:

1.3% interest + 2.5% repayment already makes a monthly payment of €1,345. Even less repayment is too risky.


So even after your own calculation, €425,000 is not enough. Thus, the rate rises to over €1,500 per month. Warm and with a small reserve, €2,000 per month!

Let's put that into relation to the current situation:


This means you slide into the red every month. It doesn’t add up at all. And with children, you will initially have income losses!

Sorry, but you are massively taking on too much!! Plan a significantly smaller house without a basement, double garage, and other expensive stuff, then it might still work.

Sorry that I can’t present this more positively.
 

K1300S

2021-06-13 20:09:25
  • #6
Without going into details here: the construction budget does not match the house without substantial EL, and you can deduce from the previous feedback what happens if the loan amount turns out to be even higher. This will not only lead to nothing, but you are heading straight towards your doom. Especially with a child, this is anything but sensible.
 

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