infors
2017-04-24 17:09:40
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Many thanks for your very valuable ideas. I have attached an updated graphic with the approximate room arrangement regarding the privacy screen, showing how we now imagine it. But we are still not quite sure...
It is a street that only leads into a new residential area. There is also a traffic report on the traffic load for the new development. It is calculated that at least 196 and up to 391 car trips will be made per day.
I can understand that. However, the garden can still be seen.
The west side feels too close to the street for us, even for a single bench. We would rather create another smaller terrace for the evening sun. In the updated graphic, I have included an idea from us. We could create a second, somewhat smaller terrace in the lower southern part of the garden with space for grilling and seating. If we want evening sun, we could simply move there. Or do you think that's nonsense?
We also considered planning a larger terrace on the south side with an awning. It would be nice to get sun in the morning, at noon, and in the afternoon. But in the evening, we would miss it then.
Well, that was your idea too. Another corner for later switching to the evening sun. We also like it.
I didn’t find the floor plan bad either. If you rotate your floor plan as you wrote, we would at least have no living spaces facing the street, meaning no one can look into the house. What bothers me a bit about your floor plan is that you wouldn’t get any evening sun inside the house at all—or am I wrong? And we are sun lovers...
Well, that is really the question. I already wrote something above about the traffic factor. I just can’t really say whether the forecast is high or low regarding traffic noise or street use by cars.
So 50 would be roughly the value at which traffic noise would not bother much? Then we are well above that according to the forecasts of the traffic report. The 30 zone street in front of the property is not a through road. It is only the single access road into the development.
Irony? Half a step doesn’t sound like much. Although the floor plan as-is would not allow windows on the west side anyway.

There are two types of 30 zones: streets that only serve to access a residential area and cannot be used as a shortcut / traffic light bypass for commuters (and that do not lead to a supermarket) are the quiet kind.
It is a street that only leads into a new residential area. There is also a traffic report on the traffic load for the new development. It is calculated that at least 196 and up to 391 car trips will be made per day.
And with low enclosures, the speeders are afraid that you can see their license plates well, and then they adhere to the noise limits.
I can understand that. However, the garden can still be seen.
... also a wide terrace on the south side would fit wonderfully here, which also gets sun from the west. On the west side then a narrower terrace with a bench for the evening sun
The west side feels too close to the street for us, even for a single bench. We would rather create another smaller terrace for the evening sun. In the updated graphic, I have included an idea from us. We could create a second, somewhat smaller terrace in the lower southern part of the garden with space for grilling and seating. If we want evening sun, we could simply move there. Or do you think that's nonsense?
We also considered planning a larger terrace on the south side with an awning. It would be nice to get sun in the morning, at noon, and in the afternoon. But in the evening, we would miss it then.
Or like this. The main terrace is closer to the kitchen here. Arrows indicate possible lines of sight. For the evening sundowner you usually make yourself an additional seating area in another corner of the garden, from which you can see your house anyway
Well, that was your idea too. Another corner for later switching to the evening sun. We also like it.
Some people build the living room front around the corner. Luxhaus once had a few designs for the Tango with this. Unfortunately, most catalogs have disappeared from the internet. I still have one at home. Mirror it once and it fits. I don’t think it’s that bad.
I didn’t find the floor plan bad either. If you rotate your floor plan as you wrote, we would at least have no living spaces facing the street, meaning no one can look into the house. What bothers me a bit about your floor plan is that you wouldn’t get any evening sun inside the house at all—or am I wrong? And we are sun lovers...
Besides that, I would always try to make sure that the terrace borders the street as little as possible or that its noise doesn't pour in unhindered. So just being on the south side is already quite worrying. You’d need a substantial forest to make it cozy behind it.
Well, that is really the question. I already wrote something above about the traffic factor. I just can’t really say whether the forecast is high or low regarding traffic noise or street use by cars.
Is it a through road? If it only serves to provide access to the residential area, maybe 50 cars pass by per day???
So 50 would be roughly the value at which traffic noise would not bother much? Then we are well above that according to the forecasts of the traffic report. The 30 zone street in front of the property is not a through road. It is only the single access road into the development.
There can be no more areas for additional new developments with us. There are no more open spaces for further plots. We also wouldn’t like the pedestrians either. If there are any more ideas for privacy screens, please share them...Well, if behind that there isn’t the next field with another 50 cars etc. being served... I would also be annoyed by pedestrians looking at my coffee table. And children playing on the street are nice, but it is also nice to have some peace.
That is indeed a big advantage of this variant: that you can rotate the terrace by “half a compass step” away from the ridge direction / house axis.
Irony? Half a step doesn’t sound like much. Although the floor plan as-is would not allow windows on the west side anyway.