Benrath
2020-10-05 20:40:13
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Hello everyone,
we have bought one of three plots that were divided from a larger plot and still need to be developed. Access is via a private road and all three owners share the traffic area equally, one third each. The plot is very well connected and centrally located for us in Bonn and is perhaps somewhat larger than we would have needed, but it's not as if there are constantly free plots in similar locations.
Since there was a longer legal dispute between the seller and the residents beforehand, we can only build a partial storey with some restrictions. For this reason, the plot was probably only interesting for private individuals. A separate apartment is not possible, and we don’t want that anyway.
The planning so far has been on a greenfield site, without any thoughts about costs or practical aspects. At least on our side.
The architect apparently likes to draw, which I can actually understand at this stage and has a bit of an artistic touch.
We are generally open to all suggestions and ideas on what should be done differently. Especially where costs could easily be saved.
Our next step would be an architect contract phases 1-5 plus general contractor/contractor.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: >800 sqm, no slope, building window etc. See plan.
Number of parking spaces: 1 on traffic area and 1 garage
Number of storeys: Only 1 full storey plus partial storey
Roof type: Flat roof; architectural style: rather Bauhaus
Orientation: House front facing southwest
Maximum heights/limits: 7-8m
Client requirements
We actually have no requirements regarding the style. Flat roof arises somewhat because of the partial roof and the height restriction, which probably does not allow a pitched roof.
We want a basement with excavation and two daylight rooms (idea came rather from the architect). Currently we are three, but there could be four someday. Early 30s and baby.
We had planned well over 100 sqm on the ground floor and then 75% of that upstairs. Currently it is about 230 sqm ground/floor plus terraces etc. and basement.
Office: occasionally, but not so important.
Guest nights per year: don’t know, but a guest room is planned.
Open kitchen, cooking island: We definitely want a separate room for the kitchen and like the proposal with the extended island.
Number of dining seats: 4 in the kitchen, rather 8 in the dining room.
Fireplace: not so important, rather no.
Music/stereo wall: 5.1 system around the TV.
Balcony, roof terrace: terrace definitely, balcony above kitchen arises from the partial storey.
Garage, carport: garage is now with b=4.5m not so standard and probably more expensive because of that.
House design by architect
What do you particularly like? Why? Use of the sunny side is good, and otherwise all our wishes are taken into account.
Upper floor: 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms. For parents en suite bathroom and walk-in closet.
What do you dislike? Why? I could imagine the staircase prettier. Maybe more elongated and open. Generally the hallway is a bit large.
Terrace on the upper floor somewhat oversized. We wonder if the overhang casts too much shadow on the ground floor.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: with general contractor and all ancillary costs >900,000€
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: rather below that.
Preferred heating technology: no opinion so far
Why did the design turn out as it is now? For example:
There was a first meeting with the architect where our wishes were written down.
Ground floor: kitchen separated, living/dining room together. Another separate room as office/guest room (and possibly bedroom if needed).
Passage from garage into the house. Passage possibly as utility room.
Upper floor: 3 rooms plus 2 bathrooms, one en suite.
Initial draft in the second meeting and in the third meeting this final design was presented.




we have bought one of three plots that were divided from a larger plot and still need to be developed. Access is via a private road and all three owners share the traffic area equally, one third each. The plot is very well connected and centrally located for us in Bonn and is perhaps somewhat larger than we would have needed, but it's not as if there are constantly free plots in similar locations.
Since there was a longer legal dispute between the seller and the residents beforehand, we can only build a partial storey with some restrictions. For this reason, the plot was probably only interesting for private individuals. A separate apartment is not possible, and we don’t want that anyway.
The planning so far has been on a greenfield site, without any thoughts about costs or practical aspects. At least on our side.
The architect apparently likes to draw, which I can actually understand at this stage and has a bit of an artistic touch.
We are generally open to all suggestions and ideas on what should be done differently. Especially where costs could easily be saved.
Our next step would be an architect contract phases 1-5 plus general contractor/contractor.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: >800 sqm, no slope, building window etc. See plan.
Number of parking spaces: 1 on traffic area and 1 garage
Number of storeys: Only 1 full storey plus partial storey
Roof type: Flat roof; architectural style: rather Bauhaus
Orientation: House front facing southwest
Maximum heights/limits: 7-8m
Client requirements
We actually have no requirements regarding the style. Flat roof arises somewhat because of the partial roof and the height restriction, which probably does not allow a pitched roof.
We want a basement with excavation and two daylight rooms (idea came rather from the architect). Currently we are three, but there could be four someday. Early 30s and baby.
We had planned well over 100 sqm on the ground floor and then 75% of that upstairs. Currently it is about 230 sqm ground/floor plus terraces etc. and basement.
Office: occasionally, but not so important.
Guest nights per year: don’t know, but a guest room is planned.
Open kitchen, cooking island: We definitely want a separate room for the kitchen and like the proposal with the extended island.
Number of dining seats: 4 in the kitchen, rather 8 in the dining room.
Fireplace: not so important, rather no.
Music/stereo wall: 5.1 system around the TV.
Balcony, roof terrace: terrace definitely, balcony above kitchen arises from the partial storey.
Garage, carport: garage is now with b=4.5m not so standard and probably more expensive because of that.
House design by architect
What do you particularly like? Why? Use of the sunny side is good, and otherwise all our wishes are taken into account.
Upper floor: 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms. For parents en suite bathroom and walk-in closet.
What do you dislike? Why? I could imagine the staircase prettier. Maybe more elongated and open. Generally the hallway is a bit large.
Terrace on the upper floor somewhat oversized. We wonder if the overhang casts too much shadow on the ground floor.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: with general contractor and all ancillary costs >900,000€
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: rather below that.
Preferred heating technology: no opinion so far
Why did the design turn out as it is now? For example:
There was a first meeting with the architect where our wishes were written down.
Ground floor: kitchen separated, living/dining room together. Another separate room as office/guest room (and possibly bedroom if needed).
Passage from garage into the house. Passage possibly as utility room.
Upper floor: 3 rooms plus 2 bathrooms, one en suite.
Initial draft in the second meeting and in the third meeting this final design was presented.