Plot - Ideas and suggestions on orientation and development plan

  • Erstellt am 2020-10-26 17:32:03

Escroda

2020-10-27 08:57:40
  • #1
No. The footpath does not serve a property access function. Both visitors and parcel delivery persons come from the north.
 

_Yv_St_

2020-10-27 10:12:28
  • #2
Hello,

by now there has already been a lot of discussion.

Escroda’s interpretation is correct; it is a development area that contains different specifications for various building plots. That is why I only "mixed" the information valid for the respective property from the plan section with the general wording from the text section.

It is also correct that my original wording of "there are two full floors" was wrong; the correct version is max. 2 full floors as described in the development plan.

An access to the property from the street side is completely sufficient – even if presumably a garden gate to the footpath will be made.

: Yes, roughly like your presentation was our first idea. We do not expect a fully developed floor plan yet; we assume that from 7 m house width up to a square building mass we would be able to accommodate all our requirements, how we like the layouts afterwards we will have to judge later. I would find it easier to start with a format that appears most advantageous and then maybe slightly change the ratio if we see we encounter problems while planning. Is that sensible or nonsense?

The arguments in favor:

    [*]Orientation of living rooms to the garden -> privacy, possibly also bedrooms facing the garden (turned away from the street and the rest of the new development area)
    [*]Orientation of the roof surface to the south -> good orientation for solar system
    [*]two full floors -> large windows also on the 1st upper floor
    [*]Garden separated from the street and fully oriented to the green strip (although with a footpath, but we have already accepted that), the location next to the undevelopable green strip makes this property stand out compared to others


Why no 2nd upper floor? -> Our considerations lean towards building comparatively cost-effectively and energy-efficiently by means of a simple building shape and simple forms. An architect once told me it’s always better / much cheaper to insulate a cube. Whether that’s true, as a layman I can only believe or not... maybe someone has more / different information about that? Roof windows or similar would then also be omitted. We are in a region where it can definitely snow more at times... If you then rely on roof windows, that is not particularly practical either. The same applies to a building mass that has neither overhangs nor bay windows? We want to achieve at least KfW55, as this gives us advantages in financing and according to today’s state of the art probably does not mean too much special effort.

We have no doubts that we can fit a house on the property that is large enough. Our concerns are more in the direction of how to use the garden as best as possible. If we look at the sun path, you have sun in summer until early evening with this orientation; sure, evening sun on the terrace is nice, but I think that is simply not possible on the property and you then have to take an evening walk.

Regarding the arrangement of the garage(s): From the building authority I have the information that I can build up to 9 m long and 3 m high, but a maximum of 25 m² at the property boundary. Would it possibly be advantageous to put the garage on one side and the parking space on the other to push the house a little further east and use the boundary zones twice? Would I be allowed to build up on two sides? For example, the garage on one side and a carport on the other?

If we really go up to 2.5 m to the street, I would tend toward an entrance on the east/west side. More flexibility for the floor plan would probably be provided by an entrance facing the street. Are there ideas / options for a northern entrance considering the building boundary so that I don’t have the feeling that when I open the door I am standing on the street? If a side entrance, are there arguments / no-gos that speak for east or west?

Regarding the question long or wide: that is a matter of opinion, at least as a layman I don’t know any convention. We would keep the side of the house parallel to the street as long as possible and the extension perpendicular to that, i.e. into the garden, rather short.

Thanks for your feedback,

Best regards
 

Pinky0301

2020-10-27 10:47:21
  • #3
I don’t know any roads without sidewalks ops: Is there then a pedestrian crossing or how does that work?
 

_Yv_St_

2020-10-27 10:55:31
  • #4


This is a purely residential area. In the old part here, there is also a combination of partly pure footpaths and partly such 6 m wide streets without sidewalks... it is then traffic-calmed or even a play street... what it will be here, I cannot say. Along the larger street through the new part, which runs one further north, there is a sidewalk.
 

RomeoZwo

2020-10-27 11:36:33
  • #5
Often, a minimum distance from the street must be maintained for garages (5m), but not for carports. How is this to be interpreted here? If the garage is also allowed "directly" on the street, something like this would be conceivable ... [ATTACH alt="Bild1.jpg" type="full"]52864[/ATTACH] This leaves a larger west and south garden, and the house shifts to the east despite the double garage/parking space.
 

ypg

2020-10-27 12:13:26
  • #6
Just try it out: graph paper, pencil, and scissors are your friends: just lay a template with a room grid on the paper. But I have already written all that in the pinned posts on how to proceed. No. You need access paths to both parking spaces. With a carport next to the garage, you are more compact with the division. Yes: take 3.5 or 4 meters in front as parking and play area. Or simply the nice blooming front garden, which also brings joy and should not be underestimated. Yes! Long corridor in the house. You’re complaining on a high level: the property has a great orientation and you also get sun on a west terrace from the north (the sun sets in the NW in summer). But I myself have also argued with the evening walk. Because in my opinion that also belongs to quality of life. By the way: all not only facts, but my opinion!
 

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