Floor plan/Floor plan ideas single-family house 180m², 3 children's rooms

The crosses at the guest room symbolize cabinets. This is regarding the window shift so that a cabinet could fit there.

Regarding the (open) staircase: what do you think, can you put something under the stairs? How should that be executed? A cabinet will be tight.
Also, it gets dusty under an open staircase... A chest of drawers is okay, but not a cabinet. Moreover, your staircase has a bend, so only on the cross wall at the entrance to the open plan room could something be placed. But then someone will hit their head on the stairs to the right of the cabinet.

Do yourselves a favor and draw the floor plan on graph paper (one square = 60cm). Then draw the kitchen and various other furniture in their length and width. Does the kitchen already exist in the current layout?

Diese Idee gefällt uns nicht so gut, weil wir schon gerne für den Wohnbereich die komplette Breite des Hauses ausnutzen wollen.

Why do you put yourself in this corset? Give an argument. I see no point here if it leads to a long kitchen. You have space in the middle of the room that can hardly be used. The play corner will rather be on the wall between the sofa and the dining table.

I still see lots of enthusiasm regarding the wardrobe and utility room accesses, which can (and probably will) lead to a completely different design.
You have been too stubborn.

Ah, all right.
The window below could indeed be shifted a little to the left.

There really shouldn't be a large cabinet under the stairs. Possibly a small dresser for a few shoes (seasonally) and otherwise hooks for a few jackets.
However, I must admit that compared to the current situation, my wife is certainly not able to keep only a maximum of 1 or 2 pairs of shoes in the hallway.

Regarding the long living room, we currently have a living room measuring 7x4m, and that is clearly too small for us.
According to your drawing, our living room would be 7x5m when considering the dimensions from the conservatory outer wall to the wall of the guest room, plus the kitchen, which, however, is a bit of a separated room.

I fully agree with you that, according to our current planning, the kitchen feels a bit like a corridor, but on the other hand, the living/dining area would feel significantly larger. Of course, purely in terms of square meters, it’s not much, but based on our impressions in show homes and at acquaintances’, our variant seems noticeably bigger than your drawing.

And I don’t see us as stubborn. These are simply our ideas, and I can probably cope better with a smaller kitchen than with a living room that feels too small.
But I agree that the positioning of the shower toilet + utility room still needs to be reconsidered, and that could certainly lead to a completely different plan.

It’s a bit frustrating that you spend so much time on one plan, find a really nice layout for upstairs for example, and then you’re totally fixed downstairs by the position of the stairs ^^

Well, we’ll see. We have another appointment with our building specialist on Thursday, and I think we’ll talk to him about sitting down directly with the architect to hammer out something nice.

Many thanks for your tips, of course, I remain open to suggestions!

Best regards

derJohnson

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Under the stairs there really shouldn’t be a large cabinet. Maybe a small dresser for a few shoes (seasonal) and otherwise hooks for a few....

...but based on our impressions from model homes and from acquaintances, our version appears significantly larger than your drawing.

And I don’t see it as stubbornness. These are simply our ideas, and I can probably cope better with a smaller kitchen than with a living room that feels too small.
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It’s a bit frustrating to spend so much time on planning....

1. Think about where the shoes should be stored.
With the kids, several pairs come into use per season, so not just 2 pairs as it seems to be with men.

2. (Living room size) Why larger than in my drawing? I didn’t change the living room, only made the kitchen deeper. As a result, a pantry disappears in length, meaning it’s shortened.
And I don’t think you are mentally fixed on 11 meters. That doesn’t have to be the case. A kitchen must be ergonomically usable. You don’t achieve that through length but through an effective work triangle (storage, preparation, cooking).
So it really doesn’t matter if the total length ends up being 9 or 11 meters. What matters is that the layout feels spacious and functions well.

3. Of course it’s frustrating... in the end you can build however you want. I would have wanted to move one or another wall in my house, but it is what it is now.

In your case, in the end I only tuned the kitchen. If you prefer having more free space in the U or L shape... that does not exactly make for a more ergonomic or visually better kitchen.

Hehe, this is the first time I’m building an exclusive backup kitchen for the builder, and he’s the first one not to want it, although it seems sensible here—namely through shortening the long corridor.

1. consider where the shoes should be stored. Children also wear several pairs of shoes during the season, not just 2 pairs as it seems to be the case with men.

Yes, 3 pairs. "Regular" shoes, winter boots/sandals, and rubber boots. They are each smaller than adult shoes. I see no need for more shoes. But I myself also don’t use more regularly, even though I am a woman. Maybe that's why.

We also have a bay window like that in the living room, but the kitchen is behind it, not the living room. As your living room furniture is drawn, you don't see the beautiful glazed bay window at all, and the U-shaped kitchen doesn't fit into such an open floor plan either, the space for the kitchen is far too long. Have you taken a look at the Vio from Fingerhaus in Frechen? There is also a bay window there (though only a small one) and the living space is nicely spacious, or the Vio in the show house exhibition in Mannheim? There, when sitting on the sofa, you can see the whole room.

Best regards
Sabine

If money is no object, don’t ruin the property with such a botcher! If I, as an amateur, just flip the staircase to the other side (mirror the upper floor accordingly), it results in a gain of living space and kitchen – hopefully it becomes clear that the original design can’t have come from a real architect.



Apart from whether such a large kitchen makes sense or not, wasting square meters on the hallway here is nonsense. The upper floor also wastes quite a few square meters pointlessly.