New construction: Connection & cabling Internet + TV

  • Erstellt am 2019-02-15 08:32:49

Golfi90

2019-02-20 09:30:02
  • #1
How does this POE thing actually work?

Do I really just connect the POE-capable router in the hallway, for example, only to the network cable? And in the utility room, is the network cable then powered using an injector?
 

Mycraft

2019-02-20 09:58:11
  • #2
As a rule, a POE switch/router has its own power supply and is then located in the utility room.

A network cable is connected to it, and on the other side, for example, a camera without an additional power supply.

Injectors are more of a crutch and are only used if there is no other way.
 

empyresystems

2019-02-20 10:07:59
  • #3
Hi,

for SAT you need appropriate SAT connection sockets in the rooms where you want to watch TV. In general, this could also be distributed centrally via the network from the utility room with the appropriate hardware. Since you want to switch to IPTV anyway, this might be a good option and saves the additional effort for coax cabling. Whether IPTV or SAT/cable is a fundamental question... I am also not a fan of IPTV because there can occasionally be small interruptions, which personally annoys me. For IPTV, you also need appropriate receivers on all TV devices, as, as far as I know, there are still no TVs with an IPTV receiver.

Network: All connections from the rooms run to the patch panel, and from there you go to your switch. The whole setup looks tidy and organized, especially if you install it nicely in a 19" cabinet. There are also smaller cabinets for wall mounting. Or you can just build something yourself. Everything that can be connected to the LAN and is not mobile (laptop, smartphone) can be easily connected to the LAN. The rule of thumb: 1 double socket per room (+ possibly a ceiling outlet for access point) is a good starting point for future-proofing. You never know what you will use a room for later. Whether you also necessarily need a LAN connection in rooms like the kitchen and bathroom depends a bit on what you want to connect there. WLAN might also be enough here. But if you, for example, need fixed-mounted touch panels for any smart home applications, that would be another matter. So far, I haven’t read anything about that here... However, you could also just have the cable (without the socket) laid into the room to be on the safe side. 1 double socket = 2 connections. Sockets are quite inexpensive from Keystone or Rutenbeck. Check out Kabelscheune for example. The CAT standard for the socket is CAT6a, for the cable it is CAT7. That is currently the highest/best. Sockets can be quickly exchanged later. Cabling in outdoor areas is a sensitive matter. You should place your access points in such a way that you have the best possible reception wherever you need it. An access point in the outdoor area is possibly not necessary. And if it is or if you want to connect cameras, you should pay attention to separate networks (keyword VLANs). If you go that far, you should probably get help from a specialist. However, you can also have the cables prepared here for later use if you are still unsure.

If you want a modern video door station with smartphone connectivity, you might also need a CAT cable at the front door.

Best regards
 

rick2018

2019-02-20 10:36:19
  • #4
There are also Cat 8 cables. Otherwise, I fully agree with . With Unifi, you can download the controller for free, enter your plans (including the condition of the walls....). Then you can position the APs and get a rough idea of what makes sense regarding WiFi. I now have 8 Unifi systems running with friends and family and am convinced by them. With it, you can easily set up multiple networks (VLANs). In the new house, there is also a Unifi system (a bit of overkill ). It is currently being set up.
 

SenorRaul7

2019-02-21 08:18:54
  • #5
Regarding TV, the decision seems to have been made and I will install a SAT dish. Now the question about the wiring.

If I understood correctly, the classic way is to connect all "TV rooms" from the SAT dish with a coaxial cable. In the rooms, there would then be a separate SAT socket in the wall, to which the TV/receiver is connected.

Another option (the one hinted at?): SAT over IP? Then only one cable runs from the SAT dish to the utility room, where the SAT signal is converted into an IP signal (which hardware would be responsible for that?). This signal is then distributed via the CAT7 cables that are laid in almost all rooms anyway. Right?

Would that make sense in my situation, where I am still waiting x months for IPTV from Deutsche Glasfaser? Practically speaking: in that case only the LAN cable goes into my TV / receiver. How does the TV/receiver know whether to process the original SAT signal from the roof or the IPTV signal from Deutsche Glasfaser? Would the advantage of that solution, "If IPTV malfunctions or fails, you still have your dish," still apply at all?
 

empyresystems

2019-02-21 08:49:26
  • #6
There are now also SAT dishes with IP-LNB (as a flat antenna). Just take a look on the Astra page, or google SAT>IP Astra. The first entry explains it clearly. Then you don’t need any SAT cable anymore. The LNB integrated in the dish converts the SAT signal directly into IP and is also connected directly to the router. Nevertheless, you still need a SAT-IP receiver – or IP-SAT receiver – for the TV devices, because there are no TVs yet that have this technology built in. For smartphones there are apps (e.g. HD+ App) and for PC and laptop, for example, the DVB-Viewer, with which you can receive the signal directly. You then have your SAT signal distributed in your local network. This makes you independent of your internet connection, as long as your local network is intact. If the internet fails, it is 99% your provider; the local network, i.e. LAN and WLAN, are unaffected. Only online content can no longer be received. But your TV signal originally comes from the satellite and is only distributed locally over IP. Hope that was understandable...?
 

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