New construction: Connection & cabling Internet + TV

  • Erstellt am 2019-02-15 08:32:49

Mycraft

2019-02-19 09:46:57
  • #1
Both options work for the TV, it depends on you. But an empty conduit with cables on top will be cheaper than extra sockets on top.
 

dhd82

2019-02-19 14:48:17
  • #2
Hello,

here is a suggestion on how it could be done based on the drawing.

Guest = 2 connections as double socket with modular jack
Living / Dining = 4 connections as double socket with modular jack
Hallway = 1 connection as ceiling outlet for access point, power supply via POE adapter. Connection using modular jack or field-configurable plug
Gallery = same as hallway
Child 1 = 2 connections as double socket with modular jack
Child 2 = same as child 1
Sleeping = same as child 1

What might also be interesting:
Network connection for video door system
Network connection for doorbell
Network connection in kitchen
Network connections outside
Network connections for cameras

Suggestion for improvement:
I would rather place the access point in the hallway centrally between living/dining area and kitchen. You spend more time there than in the hallway and the hallway is supplied via the access point in the upper floor gallery.

According to the drawing, 14 cables would lead into the utility room.
An additional slot on the switch is needed for the router (e.g. Fritzbox or Speedport).
How old are your children / do they already need network connections?

With full occupancy, you would need at least 15 connections, so the next common switch size would be a 16-port switch.
Are there other devices you would like to integrate into the network via cable? Examples would be a printer, central data storage, a system like Sonos, smart home system, etc.

If it were my planning, I would buy a 24-port switch right away, so there would still be enough free slots for upgrades.
On the other hand, you can also start with a smaller switch and only upgrade or replace it if necessary.

It is difficult for me to give a concrete hardware recommendation, as it depends on your technical experience on one hand and, of course, how much money you want to spend.
 

SenorRaul7

2019-02-19 15:06:11
  • #3


Thanks already for your suggestions!
My experience can’t really be called that... I certainly wouldn’t trust myself to cable/lay everything out on my own. As I said, electrical work is part of the contract, but depending on hardware and workload, we will of course pay a considerable amount for it.

We don’t have children yet. So it will be a very long time before they actually need the connections themselves. But you never know, maybe one of the kids’ rooms will be used as an office for a while.

Regarding other necessary connections, I somehow still lack the imagination. Outside (garden shed/terrace) also seems important to me. Video surveillance is currently not an issue at all. Doorbell? Why does my bell need the internet?
The printer will probably also be centrally located in the study. Is a cable really necessary there? The Wi-Fi signal will probably - especially with the APs - be sufficient to send a print job down from the upper floor?! If there is a free connection in the socket, it could of course get one too.

SONOS sounds good. Although I would also find it strange to cable every single speaker. Then, besides the power cable, the LAN cable would also have to be hidden reasonably well.
 

opalau

2019-02-19 15:30:24
  • #4
I don't really understand the preference for double sockets. We also have them in our rental apartment and almost always have the following two situations: The socket is used by exactly one device (e.g. bedroom) or by significantly more than two (e.g. study). In the first case, I don't need it anyway, in the second case a small switch is connected to one of the two sockets. Am I missing something?
 

Mycraft

2019-02-19 15:49:03
  • #5
A single socket means the same effort as a double socket, only the cable is double. So why would you only take one when you practically get two for free.

Today you have only one device connected, tomorrow maybe two. Also exactly to avoid what you suggest, namely switches at the sockets. These mean more power consumption and possibly lower data rates.

So why should you shoot yourself in the foot from the start? When you still have the free choice.
 

hanse987

2019-02-19 19:39:19
  • #6
I think the basic layout is quite good. I would still put a network socket in the kitchen, but I think that is debatable. On the ground floor, I would move the worktop between the kitchen and living room. At the living room TV, 2 double sockets; if an office is already planned somewhere, then also 2 double sockets there; the rest 1 double socket. (I would always go for double sockets since no additional socket space is needed.)

Since you are having patch panels and network sockets installed, just use whatever the electrician can do. But have a classic wiring done and don’t let them sell you something like Homeway or Datalight systems. For the switch, I currently have a favorite. The Zyxel Grundstück-1900-24E – smart managed switch usually around 90€.

Be careful with the TV that the empty conduit from the TV down to the other devices like the PS4 has to be quite thick since HDMI connectors have to go through there as well. Somewhere here I saw a picture where a 50mm conduit was used. I would put a socket directly behind the TV.

A different question. We are throwing around network sockets here. How much does a double socket cost you? Ever asked? Network socket on the ceiling – does your builder do this? Just putting it out there.
 

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