Loss of a long-term IKEA customer

  • Erstellt am 2011-06-11 17:51:35

Nayla_1068

2012-01-03 01:01:43
  • #1
Dear heavens, Mr. DGH... (whatever!) why are you so offended?

I don't quite understand why you have to show off so much about Ikea-Forum and IKEA-E-Geräte?! No Ikea employee forces their customers to buy a device there. Please consider Ikea's sales quota and that of the companies you mentioned. Actually, I don't want to start a new discussion here, I don't know anything anyway...

This "Whirlpool is crap" nonsense is just macho behavior.

NfU

Well.
 

DBGHP

2012-01-03 02:02:41
  • #2


Hello.

You completely misunderstand something, as if I were doing what you describe.

Technicians (experienced ones) probably know best what quality really means. And I don’t even count myself among the experienced.

Maverick is the one who accuses me of only knowing cheap devices and being incompetent when it comes to questions about economical repairs.


Furthermore, I provided a bit of background regarding the work and daily routine of a professional service company and which repairs still make sense.

It’s simply the case that the named devices from our favorite furniture store do indeed have the mentioned “quality.” Yes, a Candy washing machine can run for 12 years too, sure, but that depends on usage and Murphy’s law also plays a role.

It is repeatedly discussed/questioned here how lousy the customer service for the household appliances sold at IKEA is, that you have to wait ages for parts, appointments are not kept, or devices fail prematurely. That’s how it is with big customer service centers, they have long distances to travel and fully booked schedules.

If you buy Beko, Siltal, Amica, Gorenje, etc. (random junk listed!) you have to follow the contract/manufacturer’s service in case of warranty claims, just like with a defect on Miele or BSH.

If you go to a specialized company, you get free home delivery including installation, and if something happens, the technician arrives very quickly. They do come even if you didn’t buy the device there.

That’s not the case with IKEA household appliances. Not to mention the quality of cheapware (household appliances!) produced abroad. Sorry, but this is the perspective from professional practice.

If someone doesn’t want to hear that, they simply don’t have to listen.

And I also recommend reading the warranty conditions, as Maverick already suggested to me. They also say things like the warranty is only offered under conditions from the seller/manufacturer, which always excludes commercial use, for example. So a Senseo machine used 6-10 times a day is commercial use, just like a washing machine used 3 times a day or a dishwasher that never stops, etc.

And defects due to misuse are always excluded from the warranty anyway. Defects caused by particles in the system, incorrect use of salt, etc. So these nice long warranty periods are useless. Only statutory warranty counts, and unfortunately only for the first 6 months, and not even under product liability law can you get hold of the manufacturer because of a €500 deductible.

So forget about the warranty in the drawer. :-/

1. It was about an impatient customer with expectations of a first-class luxury customer service, who had to dial through three phone numbers and only got an appointment after a week during the holidays......

2. About the economic viability of a repair (Maverick’s machine) costing 180 euros and which defect was behind it, and whether it was rip-off.

Happy New Year, by the way...
 

Maverick1854

2012-01-03 12:21:13
  • #3


You have no idea, so don’t guess, but inform yourself. Just because the IKEA devices are not good enough for you, does not mean that they are "junk."

A calculation example:

A new dishwasher from Miele costs approximately (on average) 800€ - 900€ new. That gives me a good, but not the most expensive device, with good consumption values. Let’s assume the device lasts 5 years. After that, it is practically worthless, or let’s say it could still be sold at a flea market for 150 €, because "it’s a Miele." Then it is an expensive device. It becomes even more expensive if repairs come. And according to your calculation, it is then only (it’s a good device, but unfortunately the circuit board is defective and the warranty has also expired for 1 year) 150 €. Unfortunately, the heating elements also fail due to very hard water, despite good tabs and whatever.

How much do heating elements cost? I don’t know. But I think around 100 - 150 €. Let’s calculate:

Purchase: 850.00€
Repair 1: 150.00€ with 2 years warranty... installation not included
Repair 2: 100.00€ with 2 years warranty... installation not included

Device costs: 1,100.00 €

Dishwasher from IKEA: 499.00€ with 5 years warranty
Costs in the first 5 years none, because of warranty. The device can also be just an "A-device" with not so good values. Because I will not have water costs of 600.00 € in those 5 years.

What must of course not be forgotten: we are talking about Miele here, the Porsche among household appliances.

But who throws away another device after 2 years (statutory warranty)?

Next, please familiarize yourself with the difference between "warranty" and "statutory warranty."

Before you start writing straight away, read up. IKEA gives WARRANTY (5 YEARS) AND YOU HAVE STATUTORY WARRANTY (2 YEARS).

Now I want to hear no more about IKEA selling "junk" on this and the tedious topic. If anything, please facts and no nonsense.
 

fotokatze

2012-01-04 00:24:15
  • #4
Feed the troll!

Do you know this one already?

An Audi driver buys a Miele dishwasher ....
 

DBGHP

2012-01-07 16:51:45
  • #5
1. YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE!

Yeah right, everyone has bought cheap stuff and now everything is high quality, OR WHAT?

Borrr..

So I have no clue, sure, THEN DO MY JOB EVERY DAY!!!!

I'm looking forward to you trainee

Electrolux?! Do you know what kind of junk that is?

Heating elements and the 100-150 euros hahaha...

That is a 20 euro item! Borrr That shows that YOU HAVE NO CLUE.


Electronics = only the manufacturer supplies it and WANTS A LOT OF MONEY. (so it’s usually too expensive for the customer, around 150-200 euros)

A pump or something, those are standard parts. FROM TEN EUROS!

Sorry, but you have no idea about customer service and everything.

Have a nice day
 

IKEA-Experte

2012-01-07 17:52:45
  • #6
why can't you actually close threads here?
 

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