Kitchen consultation: which brand for kitchen and appliances

  • Erstellt am 2021-11-19 09:27:11

ypg

2021-11-19 17:26:11
  • #1
I give the tip:
First, you should write down and also sketch your cabinet needs.

For example: supplies without a pantry and Edeka nearby 1 tall cabinet, 60 wide,
cups, mugs and glasses 1 wall cabinet, 2 levels each 60 cm.
Dishes 3 levels of 60, less for display cabinet.
90 cm drawer for cutlery and cooking utensils, 60 drawer for bags/foil, 60 for trash base cabinet
60 base cabinet for pots, 60 base cabinet for Tupperware and cans, 60 for various electrical appliances... spices, oil and vinegar...
All of this is of course available everywhere, but individually different from the masses. A 60 wall+base or tall cabinet remains as a reserve.
Then I would try with the Ikea planner or Nolte, there are quite a few, to play around with your intended floor plan to see if you can manage with the needs plus refrigerator, oven/stove, dishwasher, etc. You could then have it planned in a specialist forum and/or also go to a kitchen studio in parallel.
If you have 15,000€ as a budget, then I would tell them 13,000 as a limit. Accordingly, they should plan.
You can get the same size and visually identical kitchen from the same manufacturer at different prices. The kitchen planner then puts drawers behind only half of the doors instead of all of them, the other half then has normal shelves.
Or above the stove, if the budget is not enough, there is a panel instead of an expensive drawer. No expensive 120 cm drawer, but cheaper two 60 cm drawers... etc. That does not make the quality of the kitchen worse, but fits better into the budget. And if the space fits you then, that would be okay. You wouldn't be ripped off.
Our kitchen planner back then said: 50% on the furniture, 50% on the appliances. Hidden appliances like cooktop, refrigerator and/or dishwasher don't have to be trendy in design, oven would be nice to look at. At least check the good energy rating on the refrigerator. A device you only use every two weeks can consume a bit more there.
I highly recommend the corresponding k ü ... forum to you!
One problem in my eyes are those studios where you name a budget and they initially plan for twice that. I personally don’t consider those serious; others are not deterred by haggling.
...

This question irritates me a bit because many common brands have products with this and that. Also, the individual user should already know what they need.


There are individual solutions from Neff, Bosch and Siemens respectively.

Say... are you the one who asked where to buy furniture? Actually, you need someone at your side who knows all about this. Maybe you write a contact ad here... one or the other will definitely be interested in serving as a companion :D
What about your wife? Does she have ideas and two right hands?
 

Wassermann

2021-11-19 18:33:13
  • #2
My story:

Our design was already 90% finalized. It is now actually being implemented as such. For the remaining 10%, we received very good ideas from the various studios.

1. Studio: Schüller for about 15,000
2. Studio: Nolte for 14,500
3. Studio: Häcker for about 17,000
4. Studio: Nobilia for about 13,000
5. Obi: Nobilia for 11,200

The purchase was then made at Obi.
 

Wassermann

2021-11-19 18:38:36
  • #3
And on the topic of negotiating:

Stick to the common rules of purchasing:

- never reveal your limit, start significantly lower.
- play good cop, bad cop, one partner is enthusiastic, the other is not.
- never sign immediately
- don’t settle too easily and feel free to negotiate down several times.

The kitchen business is actually extremely opaque.
 

Strahleman

2021-11-19 22:37:26
  • #4
I would no longer buy mid-range devices from the BSH family. We had them in the old apartment, and after a maximum of 6 years, 3 out of 4 devices had some kind of defect (circulation pump of the dishwasher broke after 3 years, oven light stopped working after 4 years, refrigerator no longer closed properly and had a broken display...). Therefore, we have now decided on top-class devices from BSH or the market leaders Liebherr (refrigerator) and Miele (dishwasher). Especially with the latter, we are thrilled because it is simply a huge difference from the old one.

Otherwise, the kitchen brand is rather secondary. I find that you can hardly go wrong with Häcker, Nobilia, Nolte, IKEA, etc. The more important thing is a consultant who deserves their name and does not cobble together an unusable kitchen. We were really happy with our consultant, who gave really good advice and tips and also showed us alternatives for better kitchen functionality instead of just stubbornly implementing our ideas.
 

i_b_n_a_n

2021-11-20 08:39:14
  • #5
I can't (anymore) agree with that. I just assembled my Metod kitchen and actually only got annoyed at the nonsensical places where Ikea saves money and the quality gets worse. The assembly itself is OK if you take your time. The saving potential, however, is rather low. No reasonable solutions for narrow cover strips, islands, etc. Examples: - front edges (edging) of the carcass are consistently uneven (that was even worse with "Faktum") - carcass material poor (particle board not sufficiently compressed, noticeable with every screw you drive in) F- fronts (in my case high gloss white): uneven, a "bump", as if the MDF boards were not sufficiently sanded and cleaned before coating. - poor quality / workmanship of the upper and lower edge of the fronts - underside of the wall cabinets "unsightly" - feet abysmal (can't get cheaper than that) With a Nolte of a similar price, none of this is to be seen. If I had known all this, including the difficulties of installing electrical appliances from other manufacturers, I would never have chosen it. Price/quality of the electrical appliances well... (Bauknecht / Whirlpool)
 

tomtom79

2021-11-20 08:49:22
  • #6
The corpuses are not made of chipboard but MDF unless they have changed it. In which country were the corpuses manufactured? I cannot confirm it.
 

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