Kitchen appliances, asking for advice.

Hi payday - why do you think the other Bora variants are less suitable for private use (when you put the price aside)? I'm also interested in the system. Thanks!

A friend has Bora and always complains when food falls in. That is probably not solved very well.

We looked at all 3 variants. The basic is best suited for private use because it is simply designed for that. You can very easily and quickly access all relevant parts, food falling in is complete nonsense and almost impossible. Before anything happens with the basic, quite a bit would already have to be poured in (1 liter+). When boiling over, nothing gets inside because the extraction has a rim that prevents the water from getting in like that.

The other two variants partly have no overflow protection, it is significantly harder to access the grease filter, or there is no proper protection at all, as beha already mentioned. As I said, we looked at all 3 thoroughly.

This is by no means a toy, it is a cooktop for rather demanding requirements. It is simply a variant to avoid having a hood hanging over the stove on kitchen islands. There is also the variant where the extraction pops up. I consider that a gimmick because moving heavy mechanics tend to break or jam very easily, etc...

Because we have so many nitpickers here: I'm not saying that only Bora is great and the only option. I’m just saying it’s an idea for open kitchen concepts and you might want to take a look at the system.

The simple basic model without surface induction costs about 2500€ gross (BIA/BIU // recirculation/extraction).

He said that pieces of potatoes, for example, had fallen into the roasting pan quite often.

That's the point, full pans because you meant well or, for example, mushrooms that shrink by half. As I said, a nice idea that you have to like. According to brochures, I was quite impressed, but even the kitchen salesman advised us against it.

I have no idea how something is supposed to fall in with the Basic. The round grid has slots that have a spacing of about 7 or 8 mm from each other. Only the handle hole in the middle could let a really small piece of potato through, but then you have to be playing basketball...
I can imagine it more with the other two variants.
I saw the Basic version at a friend’s place and I think it’s good. It works.
However, what bothers me is the fact that you are tied to Bora and surface induction is disproportionately expensive.
We are therefore still very undecided about what it should be for us...

I'm not saying that the Boar doesn't also have its areas of application (e.g. islands or slopes) - it probably works very well too... he just kind of regrets that point and also the price.

There is "technology". Does that ring a bell? Apparently, a residual amount of the rinse water is collected in a water tank and reused during the next rinse cycle. Sounds unhygienic at first, and apparently saves n

Yes; we have that in our Siemens. Basically, the clear rinse water is set aside to be used for the next pre-rinse cycle. So nothing unhygienic; even after 2 weeks on vacation.

And the cutlery drawer is indispensable for me nowadays. For example, if you have matte brushed cutlery. I also don't want to miss the upper basket adjustable in height with one hand. Especially when the asparagus pot makes an appearance.

I would never outfit a kitchen again without a 0-degree zone for the fridge. We have a fridge-freezer combo from Siemens. It's also nice to have 2 separate cooling circuits. So the freezer compartment temperature is not dependent on the fridge section.

And for the new cooktop we will take this flex zone/vario induction thing from Siemens. It really convinced me in the store; due to space reasons, we have to stick with a 60 cm cooktop; and with classic plates there is always somehow a mismatch in the number of zone sizes available for cooking; or they are in the wrong corner.

The fact that we have almost everything from Siemens in the kitchen is pure coincidence; but Miele, for example, is simply too expensive for me.