new kitchen - suggestions welcome!

  • Erstellt am 2015-10-09 11:16:47

schöneberger

2015-10-13 01:06:56
  • #1
First of all, thank you very much for all the nice comments and suggestions. Unfortunately, my weekend was very busy, so I can only get back to you now.

So I had already had my eye on the 6XL from Blanco. I just don’t have any experience with granite; visually I think it’s great, and if you say it’s similarly durable to stainless steel, then I’ll just take it.

With induction cooktops, I have to say that I very often bring water for pasta to a boil. To stop using my 3000W kettle, it really has to be worth it – the new EX series from Bosch or Siemens, for example, has a 3.7kW boost available on all zones, even on parts of the flex zone, which I find tempting. Of course, a larger cooktop would be nice. But then you also need a bigger extractor fan again, and you lose a bit of workspace; I think I don’t really need it.

I will probably have to make a compromise with the extractor fan as well. What’s especially important to me is the grease filter; I don’t fry fish or meat that often. Does anyone know Oranier hoods? The Oranier 5EL at least looks quite okay from the technical data; more than 500€ is simply not possible for me.

Best regards Niko
 

zetterberg

2015-10-13 07:34:18
  • #2
I think granite sinks are brilliant.

I myself had one from Franke for years. Four years ago, I got the mentioned 6XL from Blanco for my mother’s new kitchen. As long as you don’t smash it with an ice pick, they are absolutely durable, with the coating—Blanco has 3 different ones, at least the middle one. In terms of color tone, I would go for a dark sink because of tea and coffee stains, etc., but I’m not exactly a neat freak.

As I said, when it comes to induction, nothing currently beats WH / Bauknecht in terms of speed. Regarding the full flex zones like Gaggenau and Siemens, which only come in 80 cm width, I would advise against them; the technology of simply sliding the pot back and forth and the settings moving with it sounds tempting, but about 1 1/2 years ago I had the chance to talk to a technician, and his statement was to stay away due to repair-proneness. But those parts cost around 1800,- street price at Siemens and Gaggenau wants 2400,-. The question for you will be how your cooking habits are; such a large zone definitely has advantages if you handle multiple pots at the same time.

By the way, I’ve had an Ikea Nutid field (Whirlpool) for 8 years now, absolutely brilliant; the current successor Folig is not coming into my house.

If you use a recirculation system, the charcoal filter is the crucial point; it makes a difference whether I have to buy one every 3 years because it’s washable, or twice a year because it’s not washable—in the next 10-15 years, that adds up to a sum which could be better used elsewhere.
 

schöneberger

2015-10-13 10:09:41
  • #3
The renewable filter is of course a good thing, because I know myself: otherwise, the expensive filters will probably be changed too rarely. I find so little on Google about which companies have washable filters or which hoods they can use. Do you have a quick tip? It should preferably be a flat canopy hood, I need the many upper cabinets.

On the other hand, there is still a bit of time, if I see it correctly, I have to cut the opening myself anyway, the kitchen won't arrive before mid-November.

I rarely really cook extensively. 1 pan and 2 pots at the same time are already rather rare, 4 at once maybe at Christmas :) In an emergency, I'll just get a single hotplate that otherwise waits for its use in the basement.

Oh by the way, @IKEA-expert, is there anything against Bodbyn? Besides the fact that many people like it?

Best regards!
 

IKEA-Experte

2015-10-13 15:38:36
  • #4
I am also a noodle eater and have a cooktop with three differently sized round cooking zones /145 / 180 / 180 / 210 with 2.5 kW / 2.8 kW / 2.8 kW / 3.7 kW booster. This makes the water boil really fast. You can get excellent advice here about a [Dunstabzugshaube]. The only thing speaking against BODBYN is that it’s such an old-fashioned girly front, which I don’t like.
 

schöneberger

2015-10-16 13:21:00
  • #5
After some research, I have come to the conclusion that the extractor hood will probably have to be the most expensive element of the new kitchen. Expensive follow-up costs due to charcoal filters would annoy me as much as with cheap inkjet printers; we will certainly stay longer in the (owner-occupied) apartment. A tolerable noise level would also surely lead to the hood actually being used.

I like the Berbel concept. Is there anything against the simplest fan unit Bauleistungsbeschreibung 60 FL (Firstline) with recirculation filter? Does it fit into an Ikea cabinet, or should I rather take the built-in hood (BEH 60 FL)? Hopefully, that's 1000€ well spent. If necessary, I'd rather save on the cooktop (Smaklig). Plasmatechnology a la O A is probably beyond my possibilities :(

Best regards, Niko
 

IKEA-Experte

2015-10-16 17:39:14
  • #6
Follow-up costs for coal also apply to the devices, but at least less than with some others. According to the drawing, the fan module is problematic to install. In addition, it will register the lawn worse. The more of the cooking area is covered by the extractor, the better the effect. My choice would be a BEH.
 

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