Is the financing for the house calculated well enough?

The post really got on my nerves because it completely missed the mark for an average consumer.

And how exactly do you define an average consumer? Ask a hundred people and 99 will measure themselves as the standard for what is normal – who would want to be abnormal? And why shouldn't "abnormal" people also represent their reality here? Maybe they consider themselves normal as well.

Half of the so-called average earners, for example, spend such a large part of their income on cars and their maintenance that I, in turn, cannot understand what good that is supposed to do. But I am not immediately accusing them of vanity, status thinking, etc., I simply take note of it. Maybe the difference is that I have no reason to be envious because I could afford it myself. But as soon as the word envy is mentioned here, the self-proclaimed normal people immediately step in and portray themselves as perfectly content and unwilling to live any other way – not even if they could. After all, they are normal.

And what exactly do you define as an average consumer?

You don't either ... but if you can trust one source or another on the internet, the average net salary in Germany is 2200 € (everyone can google that themselves...) That means in reverse: the talk about 5000 and more net per month (or sometimes 65k if you have to listen to show-offs) is not the average consumer! So please also accept facts once in a while.

I can only warmly recommend putting him on the ignore list, then you won't see anything from him anymore.
From my own experience, a really great tool.
I also don't understand why more people don't do that.
Anyway, no form of insight or consideration is to be expected from him.
Not feeding the trolls also always helps, unfortunately no one adheres to that either.

well, just imagine you have a thread and the snob butts in. Yes, you yourself (or I) can ignore him, but he will still derail the topic with his babbling about "I'm the coolest." Just look at this thread alone - 3 pages of interesting content and then snob blah blah. Last time at least the babbling was outsourced, so the kids in another sandbox could still keep building their sandcastles higher. If people who write off-topic were immediately put in their place, then the snob would have exactly one post in every thread and then a broadcasting ban. Well, one is still allowed to dream.

[QUOTE="Murmel17, post: 206336, member: 41974]The post already really annoyed me because it completely missed the point for an average consumer.

And how exactly do you define an average consumer? Ask a hundred people and 99 will consider themselves as the standard for what is normal - ...

And why shouldn’t “not normal” people also present their reality here? ... But maybe the difference is that I have no reason to be envious because I could afford that too. But as soon as the word envy comes up here, the self-proclaimed normals immediately appear and claim that they are perfectly happy and wouldn’t want to live any other way, not even if they could. After all, they are normal.[/QUOTE]

You forget that almost everyone here is trying to afford a house. Why should envy arise?

I do appreciate some of ’s views, but you can’t really say that he helped the OP in this thread in any way.
The posts are only provocative and what’s the point of posting them anyway? Completely exaggerated and off-topic from the OP – it’s admirable that Murmel is still in this thread at all, you rarely see that here.

Of course, everyone can start their own thread and present themselves, but Steffen prefers to piss on the OPs’ threads at their expense. Anything else would be boring.

I just wanted to write down the posts here, but they are actually just provocative and self-promoting. Nothing more. And there are many.

But after the last post, I can imagine that his position in the stock market forum is the reason he posts his numbers here to show off virtually to others, like he does in that forum.
He is not appreciated there.
Somehow, people there seem to lose touch with reality and what is “normal”. Normal is still that you work for your money and try to hold it together in everyday life so that you can maybe afford something more valuable/expensive in the medium or long term.
If an average employee brings home 2000, the civil servant has an A14, then those are normal figures that should not be disparaged. A14 is a very good salary for a civil servant. And whoever has reached that after 20 years can also manage with this money because ideally they have adapted their lifestyle to their salary.

: in the financing subforum it’s not about wealth and/or power measuring... how many times as a MOD have I had to move “penis threads” away?

What was forbidden to me as a MOD: suppressing users in my view.
So I can only advise everyone: suppress the users you do not want to read.
But one note: Steffen can also be smart if he wants to


Regards, Yvonne

Sorry for the off-topic, I’m out now!

: But you completely ignore my insight (less off-topic chatter), don't you? Or rather, I wouldn't know that I have ever insulted anyone (compared to, for example, WilhelmRo one page earlier).