Ground floor planning for eating/cooking/living

Here are 2 suggestions.



Here the door to the pantry can still be moved, then there is room for furniture on the wall.

Hello Hanghaus, I think the idea is good, unfortunately I believe we can no longer change the windows (but I would have to ask).

It is a replacement new build and there will later be a 3.5 room apartment on the ground floor; right now, together with the upper floor, it is a 7.5 room apartment.
Planned for our family of five (3 children, 2 adults) are 4 rooms on the upper floor; on the ground floor there is an office and a guest room, which will be used about 90 days/year (maybe/hopefully more in the future). The attic will be used as a play area.

Then I don’t understand the entire floor plan nor the intention behind it.
Two apartments?
Where do the clothes go when the kids come inside? Why such a layout downstairs with the accesses to the other rooms? Why the bathroom like that?

Hello Nordanney, thanks for the honest feedback, how would you plan the floor plan?

Either you plan two apartments. Then one functional one downstairs and one functional one upstairs.
But in fact it will be a house that is built like two apartments. What nonsense – just the entrance situation alone. Where do the three children put their dirty shoes or their dirty jackets ==> do they then go upstairs?
If it is supposed to be a house, then it should be planned as a house.
Regarding the specific question of how I would plan the floor plan: completely throw away the current floor plan and create a floor plan for a functioning house. I find everything bad for a family life.

Why didn't you plan the rooms differently? A square is always difficult to furnish. One area always remains dark. There is a lack of privacy. Kitchen bottom right is my favorite. However, I would adopt the bathroom/bedroom layout from . Please draw a proper sofa. The one in the plan is a bit small.

Hello Haydee, how would you have planned the rooms, do you have a better suggestion? As I said, the stairs and front door are fixed since we are not allowed to create another access.

I would change the stair location and plan a separate entrance in case the apartment is divided later. You are building for now and not for sometime later. Maybe it will be divided differently in the future than you imagine.

There is a conflict of objectives: right now you are a 'large family' with 3 children and many guests - meaning you need a correspondingly large kitchen, wardrobe, dining & living area.

If the unit is supposed to be a 3.5-room apartment at some point, the requirements are quite different - the apartment is then designed for 1 to max. 3 people. The importance of bedrooms with wardrobes is then higher, the sleeping area should also be somewhat more separated, the kitchen & wardrobe significantly smaller, etc.

Swiss army knives that do everything still have not been invented.

... we already suggested that in combination almost a year ago.

I think the planning is still suffering from the points that @haydee already mentioned in post 2.

I would initially postpone the idea of later division. If it is divided, then an external staircase for the upper floor should be added.

And now rather plan a staircase very centrally in the middle of the house .. for the ground floor basically as a separation of living/dining/cooking to more private rooms like full bathroom/guest room.

EDIT:
It is always more effective to simply continue started discussions again after a break.