Floor plan, living on one level, please provide criticism and suggestions.

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wiltshire

2025-08-28 17:44:50
  • #1
Thank you for the explanatory information. Now one can better assess the whole thing.

I assume that residential privacy is particularly important to you since you place cooking and living towards the garden. This means the rooms face north and east. Surely, a north side will have advantages on some days in the height of summer, but if possible, I would prefer the evening sun to the morning sun. Therefore, I would tend to mirror the design – if it should be that one.

With this layout, all bedrooms move not only to the south but also to the street. This is potentially warmer and noisier and may need to be considered architecturally (air conditioning / noise protection).

Your property has a slight slope. With this, you could build a technical room under the ground floor. The ground floor level of the house can be adapted to the terrain in different ways. It projects a bit out of the slope towards the street, but the terrace in the garden is nicely level. An indoor connection is not necessarily needed, and you can simply save yourself the stairwell. This is unusual, but we have also built it that way and have had no disadvantages so far.

Placing the child's room out of earshot of the bedroom is completely fine for an 11-year-old. You could give the child the entire upper floor and make bedroom 1 a study.

Bedroom 1 is not quite clear to me because you are not expecting overnight guests. If it is meant as a room to escape snoring, I would connect it to the dressing hallway. If it is indeed a guest room, I would connect it differently to the bathroom downstairs – or the guest would have to go upstairs to the child’s room – possibly a very undesirable intrusion for an adolescent daughter and possibly a hygiene challenge for the guest in the case of an adolescent son... Just clichés, I know.

The hallway should now work. Guest toilet and laundry room instead of a passage ease the situation.

How does your child get around? Plan the parking space for this mobility. Many of us grew up with the bicycles standing next to the cars in a garage, but that was not ideal. It can be better.

The drawn terrace is good for sitting around, but if it is about also sitting outside with friends at a table, it becomes a bit cramped.

I like the basic concept, with the consistent separation of living functions and the focus on communal rooms. Regarding the design of the gabled roof above the living space / light. Much is not “how it’s done” – the important thing is that you are aware that deviation from the standard costs something: increased square meter price, forgoing maximum everyday efficiency relating to a “normal” everyday life, enduring the headwind of “this is not how it’s done.”

Therefore:

Important—the size and the sensible space around it are often underestimated.


I know this question is not directed at me – but I have always loved this and therefore realized it. Does it really need a justification?
 

ypg

2025-08-28 18:06:40
  • #2
I think the problem is that you do not read or interpret everything as it should be. Floor area ratio (Floor area ratio) is a number starting with a 0, followed by a comma. With a plot of 521 or 525 sqm, I do not get a figure of 170 sqm through cross calculation. Then the floor area ratio is somewhat more complex, since roof overhangs may also be included if applicable. Terrace on the house, which is also approved like Floor space index, meaning a floor space index of 2 would mean that you are allowed to build twice as much living space of 521 sqm. It is self-explanatory that this is probably not the case here in a residential area, since it would be over 1000 sqm allowed. Number of floors of 2 can mean that you must build 2 full floors. The site plan is also too tightly cropped to check whether this or that is correct. If nothing is left of the plot except a 3-meter edge (where one must also note that the garage stands too close to the street), one should find the reason for oneself, yes. The plot is being wasted with the dimensions given here. If you then also use the three meters for a hedge, you actually have nothing left of the plot, not even a view except some greenery at a distance of 2 meters in front of the windows. I find the question quite justified, especially since the way to the child's bathroom, the children's room and the office must also be covered. Then there are also the quite close neighbors who might exploit the potential of the two-storey structure and then be quite close to your own living room. And if you are already planning airspace, then you want to get something from it above as well. Because according to the plan of a bungalow, the air is very thin below. I strongly recommend an architect here who will make the best of the plot and, of course, also take personal wishes into account. Maybe it will be easier for you in a personal conversation to verbally express the “wanting” and “liking” so that you can be helped. Everything else has already been said.
 

A.Dobler.82

2025-08-28 18:23:41
  • #3
Attached is the floor plan, which is specified as 170 m², was also included in the image, and the size also includes the canopy.
 

Papierturm

2025-08-28 18:56:37
  • #4
Okay. Some things are clearer to me.

Then let's get started:

1. Costs:
700,000 will probably be tight, in my opinion.
Quick estimate:
The most comparable is a bungalow; turnkey construction prices start at about €4,000.
If I calculate about €4,000 for the basement and "only" €2,000 for the upper floor (since it normalizes with the upper floor), I already get about €700,000. For the concept to work, the double garage must also be included (almost impossible to stay under €50,000 here) as well as the terrace paving (since it's almost integrated into the house) at least another €10,000 => €760,000 without ancillary construction costs. For a slope, I simply assume 20% ancillary construction costs now => I expect more like €910,000 here.
(Special wishes like clinker facade, smart home, etc. would be extra. If you go somewhat below today's standard, e.g., cheap floor coverings, textured wallpaper, and so on, you should still be able to get just under €875,000.)
(My figures above are, in my view, conservatively calculated. Last year my better half was whispered crazy ideas about a bungalow by the in-laws, and there were no turnkey offers for €4,000, rather a bit more. The high air space also makes it more expensive than a normal bungalow.)

2. I know, this will be tough. And I'm not writing this to create bad vibes but to warn about later problems.
From my point of view, the plot is not suitable for the planned house. The plot is too small for this.
Then there is the slope, which also makes it more expensive (the more ground area a house needs, the more expensive the slope gets).
Even though this is entirely against your wish, I would not try to implement a "living on one level" concept here, unless there are health reasons for it.
And if there are health reasons, I would start thinking more innovatively: Okay, open plan room, main bathroom, and one bedroom downstairs. Second bedroom (guest room? snore-escape room? No overnight guests are indicated) upstairs. Laundry room upstairs.
Alternatively, take advantage of the slope and put technology, laundry room, office, etc. downstairs. Rethink the whole thing to significantly reduce the exterior dimensions of the house.
Here only a little edge remains of the plot and a grass area barely larger than the garage.

Here again applies: if you are aware of this and it is allowed, okay.

3. But: I fear it is not allowed.
The floor area ratio (Grundflächenzahl) normally indicates how much may be built over (what counts depends on the age of the development plan). This is normally a 0,x number and is multiplied by the size of the plot. (Example: Floor area ratio 0.5 and plot 500 m² = 250 m² buildable area, plot 600 m² = 300 m² buildable area)
There it says 170 m², which is very unusual.
But okay. Some municipalities are like that.
If it is a fairly new development plan, it means: a maximum of 170 m² may be built on. Terrace and garage count toward this, depending on the statute only partially (in the sense that the terrace area may exceed the floor area ratio by a certain percentage). I roughly calculate about 300 m² built-up area. Even if I miscalculated (which is possible, not all dimensions were given), this is significantly more than 260 m².
The main building alone consumes the floor area ratio. With ancillary buildings, depending on the exact age of the development plan, it may be exceeded. In the best case by 50% => 255 m² would then be the limit. However, this is not certain either - there are also development plans which do not allow this excess.
If it is an old development plan, this can be different here; then, for example, terraces and driveways might not count (depending on age).
In newer development plans, permeable ground (which then only applies to driveways and the like) is counted less.
If not: big problem.
This needs urgent clarification. I assume the plan will currently not be approved because too much area is built over.

Next steps: Clarify from what year the development plan is.
Clarify what counts toward the floor area ratio and with which factor it is accounted for, and what options there are to design areas differently (e.g. in some new development plans: permeable driveway -> only 50% accounting).

3. Placement of windows and placement of rooms also offer some optimization possibilities, as others have already written.
My brain refuses to think about the floor plan right now because I fear that the floor area ratio will be exceeded anyway.
 

wiltshire

2025-08-28 22:58:49
  • #5
I think it is clear to everyone that the house will not be built exactly as it is drawn. The basic idea is clear and can basically be realized on the property in a somewhat different form. If the garage and the utility room including the technology are moved under the house, it will not be so tight with the property anymore and the floor area ratio can be maintained. I see the €700,000 as a wish budget. It is unclear how much elasticity is still possible to fulfill the wishes. Not everyone approaches the pain threshold with their wish budget. By the way, I also think that with the wish budget, about 2/3 of the construction project can be realized if you calculate full costs from the first groundbreaking to the last terrace paving stone.

When I presented my construction project as Hampshire about years ago, you were also quite nice to me and thought along. Building a bungalow with a gable roof and a "void" on a slope – that works, we did it and it is great to live in. Only one thing does not work with that: optimizing construction costs per square meter. In the end, we did not implement all ideas but the essential ones. But I did not understand the requirement from as if that is the goal here.

I consider the advice to go to an architect absolutely sensible.
 

A.Dobler.82

2025-08-28 23:12:44
  • #6


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I share your opinion on the budget: It’s not sensible to compare one with the other, and that is not my intention either.
 

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