Sloped plot, single-family house 50m², slope, garage optimization

  • Erstellt am 2020-02-10 20:38:20

haydee

2020-04-11 13:01:48
  • #1


Correct

How high is the construction of the Kfw 40+ floor slab?
 

kaho674

2020-04-11 14:20:32
  • #2
I'm not quite following here. Has the placement of the garage already been decided? The plan shows a huge terrace, which would be completely elevated. Is that correct? What about the basement? Will it still be built? What does it look like? Basically, it would be nice to know the dimensions of the plot. Did I overlook them? How wide is the plot? Is the ridge direction specified in the development plan?
 

ypg

2020-04-11 15:44:11
  • #3

Me neither. I just reread the four pages.

Exactly! Better than a cellar that is completely underground.

It goes down towards the garden. That’s how I understand it.


The granny flat wasn’t planned at all in the beginning, right?!
And you don’t really need a huge basement nowadays either. For you, that’s an expensive extra. For that, you’re now trying to get 2 x KfW loans and accept things that normally wouldn’t even be considered, making everything more expensive, uncomfortable, and complicated.
If I were you, I would take a step back, use the slope to design 2 livable levels for your family to live in. Without 80 sqm of usable space that nobody needs. Without crippled hallways on the ground and upper floors that reduce living comfort.
I would put entrance and bedrooms on the ground floor level, and the common room with utility room and technical room in the basement. Then many things would fit – including the budget!
And it would be great if you could contribute a bit more to the thread, then a discussion would develop.
 

Tobbster77

2020-04-12 21:46:43
  • #4

It is pleasing that after five days there have been such lively responses to my questions and topics. If I don’t respond immediately between the first reply yesterday and ypg’s last post within 10 hours yesterday, please forgive me. There are other things besides the internet.

First, I would like to clarify some ambiguities that apparently I did not present clearly. The slope runs from northeast towards southwest. Or based on the plot picture shown in the first post (highest point or 0 line at the cross street). If I look from the cross street towards the cul-de-sac street, it goes down. Then it goes down towards the drawn-in ditch. has got that.
The plot is from the building line (neighbor at the curve 16 meters wide). From the end of the curve 19 meters wide and overall at the short end 26 meters long.

also got it perfectly regarding the basement and the slope.

It is fixed that we are building with a basement. Aren’t the statements about basements rather subjective? Some say you need it (those who have one), others say you don’t (those who don’t have one). The slope compared to all other plots is the flattest. Therefore it is intended to be a conventional utility basement. Possibly expanded later.

Regarding the 2 living units. This surely causes confusion, as it’s more future-oriented. My parents-in-law also have a single-family house that is designed so that the upper floor can be used as a separate apartment (water/electricity for stove/bathroom). Required for this is a hallway that separates the ground floor and upper floor into an independent living unit and respective connections on the upper floor. That’s it.
And for this reason the idea came to us at least to prepare it. Well aware that the upper floor might never become a separate unit.
And to take advantage of the double KfW funding since we planned it anyway? Gladly.
From which of my statements do you conclude that we depend on the funding to build the house and must one be able to go to the garden from all areas (dining/living)? Unfortunately, I cannot yet provide the dimensions of the foundation slab.

The topic of living in the basement or split level, which is often recommended, does not come into question after weighing and based on our needs and requirements.

@kayho Yes, the most important question, which is actually why I showed up here, remained rather unclear after the first attempt. What do we do best about the parking situation.
The development plan also allows for a rotation of the house. But do we gain more garden space by keeping the house this wide? The terrace is currently only “fictional.” Tend to fill it up with a stairway to the garden.

@hampshire What do you mean by sideways under the terrace?

I hope that I can contribute to a further lively discussion with this. Many thanks also for the tips regarding the floor plan topics kitchen, pantry, etc. Sounds plausible and we will consider it.
Probably I should post the specific 2 “living unit” floor plan by next time. That apparently caused confusion here. Sorry for that and have a nice evening
 

ypg

2020-04-12 21:56:34
  • #5
Nobody spoke of SplitLevel.
 

haydee

2020-04-12 22:23:55
  • #6
What leads me to this conclusion? A single-family house with one residential unit is needed. The plan shows this as well, and then for the subsidy, two units are made out of it, accepting constraints like stair location. Additionally, there is the risk that the financing bank will send an appraiser in the end and the second residential unit is not there. No one does that without necessity.

The basement with a not exactly dainty balcony above it will never become living space, as daylight is an alien concept there.

For grilling, supervising children, fetching herbs or vegetables, a pool, a garden access is practical. The outdoor area should be an extension of the living space for at least 7 months a year.

Are you filling up towards the street?
 

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