Floor plan, living on one level, please provide criticism and suggestions.

  • Erstellt am 2025-08-27 15:27:09

ypg

2025-08-29 00:33:05
  • #1
Is there even a link for that? Your house is hard to find here. However, I am of the opinion from my memory that you own more than 500 sqm, and also are not subject to the constraints of a new development area. Is your house on a 500 sqm plot? I don’t think so right now, if you want to plan a plot also with garden landscaping. Then it will be over 170 sqm. Mine too. That’s probably the case. Unusual yes, but probably possible. I also assumed that the OP already calculated here, and incorrectly. But if it is like that, then it applies.. and I share your concerns. Then that should be stated in the initial thread, at the latest in the questionnaire. Barrier-free looks different than just planning on one level. In this sense, reset!
 

Papierturm

2025-08-29 08:14:37
  • #2

I think in priorities here.

Question 1:
Is the house allowed to be built roughly as planned?

Here I already have doubts because of the floor space ratio. Without being certain, though.
As an explanation for the thread starter:
A development plan essentially freezes the building regulations that were valid at the time of its publication.
There may also be further stipulations hidden in the text part.

Therefore, I can only speculate how much the floor space ratio allows here. Assuming a 7016 or 08/15 new development area, the floor space ratio would probably be exceeded by somewhere around 40-60 m².

It could also be more. It could also be less. This needs clarification!

If, for example, only 30 m² would have to be saved here, then quite a lot would need to be reconsidered.

If 60 m² would have to be saved, then even more.

Question 2:
Is the project roughly within the financial scope?

Here I’m afraid not. Naturally, I don’t know. This is purely a suggestion to take another look and optimize if necessary.

Question 3:
How well does the house work in everyday life?
From here on it starts to get subjective. I also know someone who says, "a small mini-garden is enough for me; I don’t have time or interest for more," and that is perfectly fine. Because it’s subjective.

A few things are fairly universal (e.g., paths, can furniture fit through the hallway). Others are much more specific and subjective.

In the end, that’s right, the house must please the residents.

Up to that point, however, for me the question of the buildable area currently stands above everything else. The final appearance and permissibility of the house will depend on that.
 

A.Dobler.82

2025-08-29 08:45:12
  • #3



Answer from the municipality:

Floor area ratio (floor area ratio) and thus the maximum permissible floor area (footprint) are based on § 19 Building Use Ordinance. In the development plan Lilienstraße a maximum permissible floor area of 170 m² is set. Decisive is the area which lies behind the street boundary set in the development plan (building boundary). On two parcels, you will additionally find demarcations for areas for garages. When determining the floor area, garages and parking spaces including their access roads must be included.

Regulations regarding exceedance of the maximum permissible floor area can be found on page 6 under item 2.3 of the development plan. Accordingly, the maximum permissible floor area – besides the exceedance of up to 50% provided in § 19 paragraph 4 sentence 2 Building Use Ordinance – may be exceeded by another 50%, provided that this additional exceedance exclusively concerns non-fully sealed parking spaces and access roads (e.g. grass grid stones).

Attached is the calculation, what do you think?
 

haydee

2025-08-29 10:22:24
  • #4
Yes. I like a bungalow and I want it that way; it can be planned differently than a we want or need consideration of limited mobility. The latter turns the whole planning upside down. No stairs and no threshold in the shower is not accessibility/low barrier for limited mobility.
 

A.Dobler.82

2025-08-29 12:10:12
  • #5
limited mobility does not exist. My first apartment was a maisonette, now a classic house with basement, ground floor, upper floor, attic, for us the horror, to the garden, we don’t need 1000m² of lawn, we find it completely overrated, yes everyone as they like...
 

ypg

2025-08-29 12:29:07
  • #6

The floor space index as floor space index, we all know, is a factor.
The floor plan, the floor area, (for me) rarely used in development plans, is an absolute value and serves as the maximum sealing for a property, regardless of the size of the plot.
The up to 50% increase for ancillary facilities according to Par 19 of the Land Use Ordinance probably also applies here.
So all good.
170 sqm / 50% makes 85 sqm additionally for outbuildings, paths, and driveways.


They are already very generous. However, this does not apply to normal paving, only to grass grids, which theoretically could be used as an additional parking space, see Par 9 Abs. 1 No. 20 of the Building Code.

Storage rooms and garages are generally permitted as boundary development; with “workrooms” there can be debate, for a building application I would rename it.
A technical room is prohibited as boundary development.
The parking space or garage ordinance for Baden-Württemberg applies unless otherwise regulated in the development plan.

The development plan reads generously with regard to surface development.
However, the slope would give me some headache. Simply drawing a garage flat out will not be enough. Whether in the east or west: it is roughly one meter that needs to be leveled. Additionally, the access road.
Excavations are prohibited for simple terrain modeling of a garden.

The property measures roughly 20 meters in width and 27 meters in length. As I already said: an approximately 19-meter-long building body ensures that the building is pressed onto the plot and must additionally be either embedded or elevated. The creative “intermediate building” ensures that the building, i.e., the house, is built close to the neighbor and certainly to its garage. This takes away important daylight.
Daylight is naturally everywhere and always where natural light shines. With a development, one influences the daylight and the light incidence in the house. I guess this is not considered at all in the planning.
Of course, I agree with when he suggests mirroring the house, but nobody wants to stick to their evening terrace at the street. I will consciously leave aside that the design is flawed and the stairs don’t work.

What is wanted here and what concerns exist, the OP does not write*. Except that he rejects different levels. Why, he remains silent about. There are many young people who pick up something somewhere and then take that as their opinion. When you ask, there is no answer.
The problem, however, is when you buy a plot that does not have the conditions to build as you imagine. Without steps or ramps, the development, thus also the garden or the access, cannot be done. And then even the generous floor area development eventually ends.


You did not include your paths from #12.

For experiments and to see how various building bodies behave and what kind of house you get, these tools are very useful. But you also have to set boundaries for yourself and be able to delete again. Also to think in 3D, and that concerns not only the kitchen, how nice the island looks, but also concerns the terrain of the property. For that, it is always necessary to have the whole property present for yourself when planning.
One meter of slope may look like nothing in 2D, but here, precisely because it is only one meter and a large floor area development is desired, this meter can ruin many wishes if the heights are not considered and terrain modeling is not desired or too expensive.

The slope rather calls for a building oriented transversely. You should always build with the slope, not against it.
The orientation of the property rather suggests a bungalow with a long side to bring some light into the house. Possibly, or if not visually excluded, a staggered pitched roof with a third gable to the street is advantageous for natural lighting in the house.

* Then come the explanations:

Horror? Fear, terror, and disgust. Ok, everyone can express their reasonable concerns as they can and want. For building a house you should rather think realistically. Avoiding stairs because they are "horror" may possibly relate to the design of the stairs or floors. There is not only black and white but also other successful shades of gray.
A “horror” stair is incidentally drawn in the design here ;)


An exaggerated overstatement, which is certainly not to be taken seriously for a roughly 500 sqm plot.
However, the development plan states how the property and the garden design should be carried out (points 4.11 - 4.15). So, not everyone as they like, but everyone as they like and must.
 

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