Floor plan design townhouse with a gable roof

Why are the spinoff threads on kitchen and bathroom planning of this design actually being started here – is there still any doubt that none of the VARs involved so far have seen the ball go into the goal of planning quality here?

The bathroom and kitchen will remain as arranged.

We will now change the technical room or enlarge the office.
The utility room will now house all the technical equipment
Washing machine and dryer
A sink and two shelves for storage and possibly a freezer.

Upstairs in the bedroom we will probably reduce the storage room to create a larger bedroom or so that we can position the bed differently.

We do find a storage room upstairs in the upper floor important? Don’t you?

You have already been asked in several places what you always want to use for storage. Maybe you could explain your thoughts on why, for example, this storage room? Why do you find it important? I would find it good if you put the washing machine/dryer there.

And once again... enlarge this a bit here, making it a bit smaller there does not create a better floor plan. The office below is already suffering from the door, which is pushed into the corner of the room.

Your budget suffers from the fact that you are financing around 37 sqm of living room out of 194 sqm, of which the dining table area is only intended for guests. Hallways with staircase total around 26 sqm and that with

Price estimate according to architect/planner:
450k
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 550k
favored heating technology: heat pump or gas heating

550k divided by 194 sqm = 2835 euros INCLUDING equipment... that just doesn't add up anywhere

And why consider between heat pump and gas heating?
What about photovoltaics?

You have already been asked several times in different places what you always want to store. Maybe you could explain your thoughts, for example, why this storage room? Why do you find it important? I would find it good if you put the washing machine/dryer there.

And again ... enlarging here a little, shrinking there a little does not create a better floor plan. The office downstairs is already suffering from the door being pushed into the corner of the room.

Your budget suffers from the fact that you finance about 37 sqm of living room out of 194 sqm, of which the dining area is only intended for guests. Hallways with stairwell total around 26 sqm and that with

550 k through 194 sqm = 2835 euros INCLUDING equipment ... that just doesn't add up at all

And why consider between heat pump and gas heating? What about photovoltaic?

Yes, it would be good to have the washing machine or dryer in the storage room upstairs, but that probably doesn't fit, so we are making the storage room upstairs smaller so that we have a slightly larger bedroom.

The ironing board, decorations, and such small items should go into the storage room upstairs. Otherwise, we can't think of much else.

The utility room downstairs is important to us so that the washing machine and dryer are there and there is space for two drying racks.

The door in the office at the back will be removed. A window will be installed there.

I have to honestly say, we haven't thought too much about the budget. We inherited a lot and are flexible here.

It is important that we get the maximum out of this plot and since we only want to build once, we want to think about everything now.

Yes, we have now done it so that we make a small cloakroom for guests, the office will be enlarged and the technology will go into the utility room where it belongs. The kitchen has the passage to the utility room as a kind of pantry. A closed kitchen with seating options is important to us.

Bathroom and kitchen remain as arranged. We will now change the technology room or enlarge the office. The technology will now go completely into the utility room Washing machine and dryer A sink and two shelves for storage and possibly a freezer. Upstairs in the bedroom we will probably reduce the storage room for a larger bedroom or so that we can place the bed differently.

No, nonsense. You remodel a house that already exists. But not one that only exists in the stage "only as drawings." That is fixed by "back to the beginning!" Your architects have already taken the wrong turn in the preliminary design stage. In connection with "from 70 to over 190 sqm" that is anything but surprising. Someone really needs to deal with such builders thoroughly (not me, unless an appointment in summer 2025 would be okay for you). Maybe Ms. Forster? ( is currently handling "remote planning" with her quite well). You will probably have to pay the current architect, but either you get him back on track or he will cost you, I don't yet know if more money or nerves. Reordering a trout meunière in almost every parameter when you want a hunter’s schnitzel is, in any case, maximum nonsense. This draft is not a basis for what you need. Plan with someone who can listen and has the courage to wake you up.

No, nonsense. You rebuild a house that already exists. But not one that only exists in the stage of "just drawings." You fix that by "back to the beginning!" Your architects have already taken the wrong turn in the preliminary design phase. In connection with "from 70 to over 190 sqm," that is by no means surprising. Someone has to deal with such clients very thoroughly (not me, unless a date in summer 2025 would be okay for you). Maybe Mrs. Forster? ( is doing well with planning remotely with her). You will probably have to pay the current architect, but either you get him back on track or he will cost you, I don't yet know whether more money or nerves. Changing a trout meunière in almost all parameters if you want a hunter's schnitzel is maximum nonsense. This design is no basis for what you need. Plan with someone who can listen and has the courage to wake you up.

I don't understand. You present it as if we or the architect have no idea. We did think about something. Look, this is what the neighboring house looks like. We deliberately placed the kitchen at the front for the evening sun (SW terrace) and the living room at the back for the east/south terrace. The very first draft from the architect looked like this... see hand drawing. We did not like the open kitchen... Then I also sent you a design where the entrance was different... the architect also had that idea.

I don’t understand. You make it seem as if we or the architect have no clue.

I didn’t say that, but rather: that the comparison of the design and its shortcomings strongly suggests suspecting a lack of listening. I do not say “no clue,” although the points mainly raised by other participants unfortunately clearly point in that direction. The fact is: structural dissatisfaction with the results of phase 3 cannot be resolved on the way between phase 3 and phase 4, but exclusively by stepping back to the section between phase 2 and phase 3. Any attempt to take another path will be disproportionately more expensive. Latently, you have here also repeatedly hinted that choosing a different architect is under consideration. And I would be lying if I contradicted that it is worth considering.