Floor plan 200m² single-family house, raised ground floor, existing plot, double garage

  • Erstellt am 2025-02-06 23:45:27

K a t j a

2025-02-08 13:03:39
  • #1
I see some difficulties here that prevent you from getting more input. The first: the driveway does not match the photo. On the site plan, the access is shown from the east. In the photo, it looks like it comes from the north? You write that the development takes place via

Is it a rear access property?

Even more difficult are the missing details about the exact size of the building plot. How much space do you currently have for building without access and existing property? What are the other dimensions of the new property (length of the boundaries)?
 

ypg

2025-02-08 15:33:04
  • #2
Yes, yes.. it fits already. For example, in the initial post a) I received too much input about something that is irrelevant for the planning and had to read it three times before it was even mentioned that the shown garages no longer exist. b) this raised idea did not reach me at all. I can’t even figure out how one could come up with it. Lots of patchwork and that already in the middle, and everything revolves around something that is incomprehensible to me. A 200 sqm house is being planned, and it is not even possible to include a simple walk-in technical room at this size. That already stinks at the head. Why don’t you just raise the house by a meter? Probably the other residents do the same – then you just have 5-6 steps to the entrance and between terrace and garden area. That is less bad than this construct. I would first go to the basics and cut the pantry in half as well as the hallway areas. 13.5 sqm or 6 meters length just to reach a staircase or the kitchen, that is incomprehensible to me. The hallway upstairs confirms the nonsense. The bathroom upstairs absorbs this and also consists only of hallways. It seems that once again the direct path between the garage and the house is the reason here?! And honestly, it is stressful for me to confront this pivotal point of the problem when so many knots have formed with the builders already. Katja, you got this.
 

Gustav5789

2025-02-08 16:39:48
  • #3

Just for the house. We wanted to inquire about the maximum size. We are allowed to move up to 5m closer to the existing building and ignore setback areas, but after that it’s over due to fire protection.


I don’t have exact elevation data for the property yet. The survey engineers have been commissioned but due to overload it’s been dragging on for 6 weeks. I cannot provide you with a flood simulation, only a description of the last flood from 2024.

During the last flood, water flowed through the three garages (approximate height 5cm) and the flow direction was down the driveway towards the north. On the west side of the driveway, a 20cm deep, 2m wide water patch formed. The existing building had 5 - 10cm of water standing in the basement, which had pushed through the floor slab. The field (1549, 1548) as well as the area north of Mühlweg were also all underwater. The rest of the garden was dry. The 1m elevation of the house follows the architect’s recommendation, as future floods should only be considered extreme.

We originally only wanted to raise the ground to the desired height, but after the soil report he recommended piles.


According to the previously described investigation results, it must be assumed that starting from the current ground surface, there are insufficiently load-bearing fills down to an average depth of 1 m. Therefore, it is necessary that the building loads are transferred down to the underlying medium-dense, and at greater depths dense, river deposits.
From a geotechnical perspective, a complete soil replacement would be conceivable. However, the high groundwater level must be taken into account here, which requires groundwater management and lowering of the groundwater. To compact both the excavation base in the river gravel and the soil replacement body carefully, the groundwater would have to be lowered at least 30 cm below the lowest excavation base. Due to the proximity to the pond, comparatively large amounts of water are to be expected, so that soil replacement is discouraged here.
It is therefore recommended to found the building on piles. With piles, shaft rings are driven into the ground as lost formwork until the load-bearing soil is reached and the soil inside the piles is excavated. Then the piles are concreted. Due to the high groundwater levels and the sensitivity to flow of the fine to medium sands present in the upper stratigraphic horizons, it will probably be necessary to construct the piles under a water load to prevent sand intrusion and thus loosening of the excavation base. The piles can then be dimensioned using a design value for the base resistance σR,d = 350 kN/m². The self-weight of the piles is already taken into account. The floor slab itself is then supported cantilevered on the piles without bedding.
Regarding the waterproofing of the building, appropriate coordination with the responsible water management authority must be carried out. From this coordination, it should also emerge to what extent the terrain in the building area must be raised and filled to avoid the risk of flooding. This embankment must be created in advance to avoid causing additional stresses on the piles due to the resulting settlements.
Due to the high groundwater levels, infiltration of rainwater on the property is not possible.




We are actually in second row. Between 1549/3 and 1560/3 is the driveway to the property. You can also see it marked with a light line.
The property will only be newly subdivided once the new house is built to avoid problems with setback areas. Owner 1560/6 has already made it clear that we are allowed to build right up to the edge and he waives the setbacks. So we can decide relatively freely how we want to build in there.

In summary: set back to the north according to building regulations, to the east up to the boundary, we would only maintain distance to the boundary because of all the trees (root systems). To the south also free because of the field and towards the west up to 5m to the existing building.



Well, I’m an amateur and simply didn’t know better than to use these corridors. The fewer corridors the better, but how do you solve that? You don’t have to put the stairs in the garage, it’s just more comfortable to arrive dry in the rain. I’m here to untangle my knots and achieve better results than I was able to produce myself. Or am I misunderstanding something here?
 

11ant

2025-02-08 18:21:06
  • #4
You are not an amateur, but simply a layperson. Present your requirements and wishes to a capable architect – preferably without burdening them with sketched ideas beforehand. The reality then forms the basis of service phase 1. To me, that reads worlds away from underpinning the house by one meter.
 

K a t j a

2025-02-08 18:27:37
  • #5
Well, basically you could put just about any catalog house with 4 bedrooms + office on your land. Your wishlist is still way too vague. Here I’ve just slightly adapted one from the archive to check your preferences (north is at the bottom of the plan). I didn’t specifically include the elevation for flood protection. I would simply raise the box by 3 steps and add a staircase (1 meter seems too much to me as well). The path from the garage to the front door could be covered if that’s important. But I think 4 meters can be managed even in a tornado.

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But based on your info, I absolutely can’t gauge whether something like this would even be an option. Is turning it so that the “broad side” faces the light, for example, an option? Does the woman really need a separate ironing room, or would a corner in the guest room suffice? Is the budget enough to maybe finish the attic and put an office there? Questions and more questions...
 

Gustav5789

2025-02-08 22:05:16
  • #6
I’m sorry if it seems like you have to pull the information out of me. But that’s only because I often don’t know which details are relevant to you.

I’ll try to be more specific now:

Garage: Should be placed on the east side so that you can drive directly onto it and turning on the property remains uncomplicated.

House orientation: The short sides to the north and south, the long sides to the west and east.

Lighting conditions: There are trees continuously on the east side, which limits the light intake. On the west side, there is the existing house, which casts some shade, but the photovoltaic system is supposed to be installed on the roof there. Also, we want to have as much light as possible in the house in the evenings, although we are somewhat concerned about overheating in the summer.

Construction: Walls with a thickness of 42.5 cm. Doors with a height of 2.10 m, since with my height of 2.02 m I would otherwise constantly bump my head.

Interior design:

Office: Space for two workstations – one fully equipped and one simplified.

Living/dining area: Designed generously, the kitchen open to the dining area so that you can stay in conversation when cooking with children or guests. There should be space for a dining table for 10 people.

Pantry: Not only for storing food but also for kitchen appliances, vacuum cleaner, and beverages.

Living room: Enough space for our stereo system.

Children’s rooms: Three rooms, each at least 15 m².

Bedroom: Since we don’t have a retreat area in the basement, we want a TV in the bedroom. The bed is extra long (2.20 m), please note.

Dressing room: A walk-in closet directly from the hallway so that we can also store bedding and rarely used clothing there. (Optional)

Parents’ bedroom: Preferably on the north side, as we prefer it cool.

Washing machine/dryer: On the upper floor to avoid constantly carrying laundry.

Budget:

Currently, there is no budget for the attic expansion. With an insulated upper floor (approx. 200 m² x €3,000) plus 10% buffer, we end up at about €660,000. The absolute limit is €700,000, the comfort zone at €650,000.

Feedback on the draft:

The bay window in the living room bothers us visually.

The space between the kitchen unit and the windows seems wasted and not useful to us.

The upper floor would be fine like this, but then please with a laundry chute to the utility room?

Is this the information you were looking for?

Thanks already to all posters for your work!
Best regards
 

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