Floor plan 200m² single-family house, raised ground floor, existing plot, double garage

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ypg

2025-02-19 11:48:21
  • #1

I had the impression that the northern neighbor is willing to accept a building encumbrance. In this respect, I don’t see the problem here, but rather that the width of the driveway, from the planned and solid 9 meters to the existing, takes away far too much of the property depth from the plot.
The advantage of building in the second row is that you usually don’t have to plan a front garden – you can even plan a free space for sitting in front of the entrance, while properties facing a street need to be separated by a front garden.
But to carve off 9 meters from a 26-meter property depth hurts. That leaves little or no garden. In addition, with a double garage, the 19.5-meter width of the plot is also overstrained.
Phew... and all that just for a large fleet.
 

K a t j a

2025-02-19 12:24:35
  • #2
I missed that. That would first need to be fixed in writing before proceeding with further planning. But the street is already there. Do you want to tear it down? That wouldn't be my biggest problem right now.
 

Gustav5789

2025-02-19 17:09:01
  • #3

I would tend to go along with that. A room for extra action area in front of the cabinets, as I drew back then. But of course, we can also put that on optionally :)


Hmm, then I must have forgotten. I liked the idea, especially if it simplifies the room layout. Also, you would have gained parking spaces for guests in front of the garage. The space behind the garage will probably not be used much anyway.


Well, the children’s rooms are important to me because they often feel like prison cells. Bed, desk, wardrobe, some space to turn around, that's it.
No space to change much in the room design or areas where the kids can play alone or retreat. But if you are supposed to plan without m² specifications, you now have a rough idea of how I imagine children’s rooms.


If my thoughts seem too concrete or stubborn, I will try to describe it differently further below.


The middle garage can be disregarded; that was our architect’s suggestion to reuse the old garages. The garage length at the property boundary is indeed a problem. But there is an existing setback area transfer to the east side; however, this expired with the removal of the existing garages. Upon inquiry, the neighbor promised to re-sign it for the new building since he only has bushes/trees there anyway.


I don’t know much about the roof; our architect doesn’t know the maximum building height. He would orient himself by the prior official notice and not go beyond that. That would result in a building height of 8 m. At least 50 cm off the ground means 7.5 m usable? With this height, can the roof really be used?


See above, we have to get that signed by the neighbor.

I’ll try to abstract the wishes as ypg suggests. Let’s see if I understood it.

We would like a single-family house with three children’s rooms, which are similar in size and not only serve as sleeping spaces but also offer enough flexibility to allow the children some leeway in design.
A home office room is needed where work can still be done despite family life.
To accommodate physical limitations, work paths inside the household should be efficient and short.
The living/dining/kitchen area should be designed so that the children can do homework there under supervision or that it serves as the focal point.

You need a bit of space for the path, just to make the curve from the driveway to the garage, but yes 9 m really hurts. On the north side, you could gain some space, but I don’t know if the parents would agree since they would no longer be able to access their garage nicely.
 

ypg

2025-02-19 18:35:36
  • #4
Yes, maybe it was a stupid idea anyway since you already want/have to build on a raised ground floor. I currently see the room behind the garage as almost the sole garden area. Then it should be left out first in further planning. Well, then you simply don't build. Because then the plot would be more driveway than land to build on. Ultimately, you will probably be cheaper and easier off buying another plot where flooding is not such a big issue. Because your 507 sqm (19.5 x 26) minus 117 sqm (19.5 x 6) driveway leaves 390 sqm. And you want to cover that with 100 sqm ground area plus double garage plus access road. So there's simply nothing left. Sorry, hardly anything.
 

11ant

2025-02-19 19:12:28
  • #5
Did I already ask what his profession is? Even without intentions to split, you should stake out virtual claims as to which parts of the property are to serve what kind of use. Physically, you might want to do without fences, but in thought experiments, some must be placed. Just as every building must be stable on its own, it should also be functional. Usage restrictions also spoil loan values.
 

Gustav5789

2025-02-19 20:40:28
  • #6

If it were that easy, presumably our architect would have managed it perfectly, unfortunately that's not the case. If I buy a plot, I can't build a house because I will probably pay for the land my whole life. But maybe the kids can pool together and build a multi-family house there.


Taking money out of people's pockets

Yes, we planned that, the plot will be divided according to the claims after approval of the building permit. I will have to maintain both plots anyway, so we have a good basis there. But that only comes into play once we have a plan for how it should look in the end.
 

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