Floor plan 200m² single-family house, raised ground floor, existing plot, double garage

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Gustav5789

2025-03-06 23:31:03
  • #1
One question still came to my mind, which the architect did answer for me, but I no longer believe him. He draws load-bearing walls with 24cm and all others with 11cm. Allegedly, that is completely normal... But with 11cm between the children's rooms with hollow bricks, doesn't one hear everything and everyone? What would one have to plan here to make it reasonably quiet?
 

K a t j a

2025-03-07 06:17:02
  • #2
No, in my opinion, that is not the reason. The landing staircase would work. However, it takes up a bit more space, which is why everything seems a little tighter again. The reason is more likely the budget. Or who said: What that has to do with the exterior wall is, however, beyond me.
 

K a t j a

2025-03-07 06:22:02
  • #3
For 750K, the 3rd floor should definitely be possible or at least comfortably the 200 sqm. Have you even asked alternative providers?
 

K a t j a

2025-03-07 06:41:16
  • #4
One of the quietest stones is, as far as I know, sand-lime brick. However, it insulates poorly. Some therefore use this stone on the inside and something else on the outside. Whether and how that works, I have no experience with that.
 

Gustav5789

2025-03-07 09:58:11
  • #5


The architect said that. Our construction manager and two general contractors said it is completely within the price range. But our artist disagrees.
Yes, we lose living space because of the thick bricks, he would have to make the house bigger and that costs too much for the non-existent benefit.



The general contractor said we would come out at 650k.
Another said rather 600k, depending on the equipment.

Talk to the construction manager whether he offers that for the interior work. But 11.5 cm walls are normal, right?
 

11ant

2025-03-07 11:27:21
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The architect no longer smokes the chemtrails since he discovered them in liquid form. Now he chugs them as energy drinks.

There must be other substances at work in Malmsheimer’s sense.
I currently lack the time and desire to scroll back – but I suspect somewhere I have at least hinted at doubts about this architect’s competence. What he’s concocting is somehow not of this world. Therefore, it’s hardly possible to engage with it on a factual-argumentative level.


That works so well that the corporation owning the two supposedly competing market leaders for aerated concrete blocks and the market leader for sand-lime bricks has bought exactly this combination of companies. Customers love it and largely adhere to the religion that nothing insulates sound better than a highly dense = heavy stone. At the corners where the sand-lime brick walls meet the aerated concrete walls, expansion joints are recommended.

“Interior finishing” is something entirely different again. But non-load-bearing interior walls nowadays are a separate step, possibly performed by other people. 11.5 cm walls as a blanket solution are very popular among many planners – totally indifferent if they belong where they are drawn. What rather irritated me were the uniformly 24 cm thick load-bearing interior walls. Those are actually a hint at an older architect, but then he would also have the eight-meter module still in his blood. At this point, the system was identical whether socialist or imperialist. I can’t make sense of the guy. However, I am not available here for a consulting mandate and only replied today because apparently some notification must have interrupted my unsubscribing from this thread.

Switch to a competent architect (and browse through the threads here on interior wall sound insulation, it has all been extensively discussed).
 

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