Construction cost development still normal???

  • Erstellt am 2018-09-11 20:07:10

Zaba12

2018-09-12 18:16:05
  • #1
Man Fuchur, if something seems too cheap, then you stay away from it. You can't wish for a BMW and tell the car manufacturer, I only have a budget for a Golf, but I still want a BMW.

But good that you are not disappearing now, like many others here. How do you want to proceed now?

Do you have the possibility to massively use EL (with time and experience)?

The price for the garage is of course nonsense.
 

Fuchur

2018-09-12 18:16:48
  • #2



400k was the amount the architect should plan for, basically our target price. We have long secretly known and it’s no problem that at least 50k more will be added. Increasing by another 50k to a total of 500k is also possible, but then that is the limit.
We should therefore aim for this amount to continue with the project.


If we wanted or needed 120 sqm, we probably wouldn’t have approved the planning as it was. And conversely, I wouldn’t pay 500k for a 120 sqm house either.


No, the offers mentioned are the only ones so far. As written, also the first, after we pulled the ripcord. We are exclusively talking about the shell here. We now also know that we should have kept the architect on a shorter leash much earlier. There was probably too much trust in the “expert.”
Our question now is whether we can save the planning and thus the invested 20k through individual changes or if we should write off the 20k and start anew. We want to avoid throwing more money at the architect for a pointless endeavor.


There is only 1 company from Dresden involved; the other two are already farther away.
 

Fuchur

2018-09-12 18:21:27
  • #3
The values are 904m³ for the house, 352m³ for the basement, 267m³ for the garage including the entrance canopy.
 

Zaba12

2018-09-12 18:24:36
  • #4


Oh nonsense, that means the room heights are not standard 2.64m everywhere either.
 

Fuchur

2018-09-12 18:30:22
  • #5


We want to build, so burying our heads in the sand won’t help.

In 2 weeks I will receive a fixed-price offer based on timber frame construction, from which I hope more due to the detailed conversation.

Once that is available, we will examine it and the provider from offer 2 in detail to see where cost drivers are hidden and where costs can be saved. At the forefront here is, of course, the elimination of the garage and replacement by a prefabricated garage and, on the other hand, the recesses. Those would hurt us because we did not want such a “concrete block,” but if that noticeably reduces the price, then so be it.

Own contributions beyond the normal scope (floors, walls, and full basement finishing, garden) won’t be possible, if only because we currently still live 150km away from the construction site.

Why we want to save the design also lies in the fact that the 20k equity for the planning is lost and with that we no longer reach the equity ratio for a state promotional loan, which then drives up the financing costs. However, this is of course only relevant if the construction costs still fit into the increased budget.

Therefore more specifically: Do you see a real chance to underbid the offers by at least 100k through such interventions?
 

Alex85

2018-09-12 18:30:49
  • #6
Call one of the shell builders. Really. You can clearly say that the budget looks completely different and you wonder where the wind is coming from. Maybe there are expensive frills in there, the tender was bad, he just doesn't have time or can't do the desired wall construction. Without questions, there is no answer
 

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