Construction cost development still normal???

2018-09-12 09:10:37

Situation: House planned with an architect with a construction price limit including additional construction costs of 400k.

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Offer 1:
Shell construction basement, house walls outside and inside, roof including roof tiles, shell construction garage - including clinker and interior plaster ground floor/upper floor, without windows and doors, without garage door

Price: 365k

Offer 2:
Services as above.

Price: 355k

Offer 3:
Complete house and garage with simple standard finish and standard technology according to general contractor construction service description.

Price: 580-600k

If I estimate the missing trades, all 3 offers probably end up in comparable ranges. And that does not include surcharges for higher quality materials or better heating technology nor development costs and other additional construction costs or supplements. Also, additionally, the already paid architect fees for service phases 1-4 come on top.

Sounds to me clearly too high, these are probably polite "We-don’t-want-your-order" offers. We had that from a provider as well. Admittedly, these retracements are not necessary and only drive up the price. Further saving options that won’t ruin your life: air heat pump instead of gas/solar thermal, prefabricated garage for one car + carport?

We are building turnkey for just under 510k with similar living space on a hillside (architect service included). Equipment upscale, Stuttgart area...

2018-09-12 09:13:24

Fuchur now has to consider which approach to pursue further. He is apparently 150-200K€ over budget. If he is willing to throw in 100K€, we can talk about cutting goodies to somehow move in a realistic direction. Although I still believe there is a misunderstanding (see e.g. garage) or these are defensive offers (as mentioned, the equipment is largely unknown here).

Otherwise, the key obviously lies in the area. 50 sqm smaller would be a start.

2018-09-12 09:24:14

Yes, maybe it still somewhat limits the area in [Sachsen]? Here in Leipzig, I think I have an affordable roofer. We also had a good mason...

2018-09-12 09:25:09

He already has and named Landkreis Meißen.

2018-09-12 09:27:08

Thanks Alex for the link! Latest planning status according to the floor plan thread:

Well, the big question is what you can do without. The basement apparently is not one of them. Next on the chopping block are the recesses. That might greatly simplify the roof and save costs there. Is the study really necessary? Can the utility room be moved to the basement? The dance hall in front of the staircase on the upper floor is also pure luxury. The walk-in closet is quite generous.

If the budget really cannot and should not be increased, I would suggest you start planning anew. Incorporate the basement more consistently into the planning – possibly accommodate the study and utility room down there. Then drastically scale down upstairs to about 145 to 150 m².

I would also like to know what makes the garage so expensive. We paid a total of about 40 grand for an 8x6 masonry + plastered + 14x6 roof (including carport) – and that in the Leipzig area.

The sensible living space, so everything except hallway, corridors, storage rooms, pantry, and utility room, isn’t really bigger than ours now. It’s quite striking how much space (just in my eyes) and thus money is wasted. The window areas on each side and floor have at least one 240 cm window. Therefore, your window offer will probably be somewhere around 25-30k€. Normal “people” pay a bit more than half that here. By the way, window prices increased by 10% between 2017 and 2018. Unfortunately, I was hit with an extra 2k€ on top as well.

I also suspect that a replanning will be necessary. Above all, you apparently don’t have all the offers yet, or?

I don’t understand the price for the garage either. If you received an offer around 40k€, it would still only be -40k€.

2018-09-12 09:27:17

He already has and named the district of Meißen.

Oh, I see. Ok. That is the Dresden catchment area. It could be more expensive there. I would get some more offers. Maybe also ask further outside of DD. But whether you can avoid the new planning? It makes me doubt...

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